On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Anto <[email protected]> wrote:

> Narendra,
>
> I appreciate the voice you are putting in about legality.
>
> I will research about the legality issues and will try to find a
> suitable solution.
>
>
Just remove all non-free packages. I will be happy.


>
> > Free Software is basically a mission to get rid of non-free software.
>
> FOSS is NEVER a mission to get rid of any non-free software.
> It is a revolution which shows people that it is possible to develop
> software free of cost


LOL (Big LOL)
Who the hell toldyou that RMS started FSF and GNU for creating free of cost
software ?
have you ever spent any time watching and reading him.


Moreover, I am taking about free as in Freedom dictated by 4 freedom and
Open Source definition. I am not talking about freeware.



> and yet have high quality levels, sometimes even
> more than what existing non-free software offer.
>
>
> > if you put adobe reader (let suppose you got permission to do so by
> Adobe), in this case you are taking away linux users from Okular to Adobe
> reader and thus reducing the users which use okular.
>
> I will reconsider Okular's capabilities.
>
>
> > You are exactly advertising non-free software.
>
> I am just adding in a set of some good software, be it free or non-
> free.
>

I can guess, for you Goodness of software is imp, and freeness and non-free
is not important. I guess you in wrong place. FOSS is not meant for that.
Open Office is still difficult at some point then M$ Office. why don't you
put M$ Office in your Distro if you want Good software. (be it free or
non-free)

IF you atall want GOOD SOFTWARE then FOSS may be a good choice for you. FOSS
contains GOOD + BAD software/packages. FOSS world is about creating a big
Community of Users and Developers who continuously create and modify the
FOSS software according to their need. I agree that 100% need of a user may
not be satisfied by FOSS. in that user will download non-free
(non-distributable software) by himself.
If you use 1000+ free software (free as in Freedom and not free of cost)
then you must respect other's work and do not mix non-free software.




> If you feel that I am advertising non-free software by doing this,
> then you should also mention that I am as well advertising the
> hundreds of other free software that I've included on the compilation.
>
>
>
> > "Why do use Linux, FOSS"
>
> I use Linux because I personally like both the quality of the
> software, the processes involved, and the philosophy it proclaims.
> Not because anybody else says so.
>
>
> > misusing the term freedom
>
> As I mentioned in my previous messages, Freedom has a much more wider
> meaning than what you are trying to construe out of it.
>
>
> > Hurting users who respect freedom and
>
> O Users who respect freedom, am I 'hurting' you as Narendra accuses?
> (Or is it just that Narendra is just trying to make a wave in vacuum
> and wanna ride on it?)
>
>
> > You must got bribe/money from non-free vendors like Adobe etc to promote
> their stuff
>
> You really know how to put across a joke. (Been to politics
> lately?) :-)
>
>
>
> In all Respect for True Freedom,
>
> Yours,
> Anto Jose
> ...
> Happy Computing!!!
> On Jul 1, 12:34 am, narendra sisodiya <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Anto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hello Narendra,
> >
> > > My aim is not to create yet another 'ubuntu clone' by having gpl-only
> > > packages.
> > > Instead, I want to provide users with a more comprehensive one which
> > > provides out-of-the box functionality.
> >
> > > And about the name of FreedomX,
> > > I see Freedom not as a Symbol of Free Software, but as something more.
> > > I consider freedom as that which does not restrict/limit,
> > > and as one which opens up boundaries.
> > > One which gives the user freedom to choose amongst a wider range of
> > > packages.
> >
> > You are a totally *naive person.*
> > Freedom to give choice for software installation and giving a software
> > preinstalled is different thing.
> > Freedom to give the the choice for software installation is what ubuntu
> and
> > other distribution do. When user download non-free software, they are
> agree
> > to install without redistributing them (checkout the Terms and
> conditions).
> > When you give some software like adobe reader or picasa then you are
> > redistributing the software and thus you are doing a copyright
> infringement
> > which is a legally punishable act.
> > This is exactly same as redistributing the copy of purchase Windows XP.
> > You are just advertising non-free software. Free Software is basically a
> > mission to get rid of non-free software. You are exactly advertising
> > non-free software.
> > You are doing two crime
> > 1) Copyright infringement
> > 2) Hurting users who respect freedom and misusing the term freedom
> >
> > Lastly if you put adobe reader (let suppose you got permission to do so
> by
> > Adobe), in this case you are taking away Linux users from Okular to Adobe
> > reader and thus reducing the users which use okular.
> >
> > Nobody in Linux community do the task which you are doing. there can be
> only
> > two reasons
> >
> >    - You are a naive uses who do not know "Why do use Linux, FOSS".
> >    Basically ethical reason to use FOSS. Please watch some video by RMS.
> Also
> >    you do not know much about the redistribution of non-free software
> >    - You must got bribe/money from non-free vendors like Adobe etc to
> >    promote their stuff
> >
> > I guess, out of two reasons above, you are doing this because of first
> > reason.
> >
> > > I consider this to be a wider perspective.
> >
> > > You might be able to install whatever packages you want in addition to
> > > the base install, but there are ppl who have no idea about what that
> > > means.
> > > Anyway, you yourself could additionally install these codecs over a
> > > base install.
> > > I just want to make that a bit more easier.
> >
> > *But by doing this you are infringing copyright law. You may be jailed if
> > caught.*
> > *
> > *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Consider this just as another alternative to LinuxMint.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Anto Jose
> >
> > > On Jun 30, 1:03 am, narendra sisodiya <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Anto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > FreedomX is
> > > > >    - a remastered (modified) version of Ubuntu Linux,
> > > > >    - trying to provide a more balanced, self-contained and more
> > > > > usable distro,
> > > > >      without being crumped with 'too much' packages,
> > > > >           or involving any hacking of the core Ubuntu base,
> > > > >      and perfectly maintaining compatibility with Ubuntu and all
> its
> > > > > updates.
> >
> > > > > Contains all codecs, fonts you'll ever need. Plays all popular
> media
> > > > > formats.
> >
> > > > > Apps List: Skype, VirtualBox, TeamViewer for Linux, Picasa, Chrome,
> > > > > Opera, ...+++
> >
> > > > > See the full list of apps at
> > > > >http://www.antojose.com/freedomx/index.html
> > > > > ;-)
> >
> > > > Not to discourage you. but you are putting non-free things like
> >
> > > > Skype , Opera, TeamViewer, Google Earth, Adobe Flash Player Plugin,
> Adobe
> > > > AIR, Picasa, Adobe Reader
> > > > Moreover it is illegal to distribute these application unless you
> have
> > > > permission to distribute them (THE LICENSE)
> > > > I would suggest to rename it to "FreewareDistro" rather then
> freedomx.
> > > > Because we use Freedom as a symbol of GPL / Free Software. I am not
> > > > discouraging you but Please do not miss use the term freedom.
> >
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