On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 13:33 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 01/14/2012 10:04 AM, kenneth gonsalves wrote:
> > I made this remark because it shows a large number of people from
> > Chennai are members of github, and if an all India search is done,
> it
> 
> re-read my original reply, I recommended that as a place to start from
> -
> not an exhaustive list, of people who might be local. Also, the
> advantage of a github lookup is that it allows you to look at the code
> these people are working with, which then gives people the advantage
> of
> considering what these people are doing and also create a route of
> contact.

and all I said is the best place to start with are the bird sanctuaries
like ilugc and chennaipy.

> step,1 however, would be having a positive outlook and the willingness
> to actually do something. Open Source is driven by people who come
> from
> two very specific mindets : (a) those who are either sponsored to do
> so,
> or people who are working on open source as a part of their job and
> (b)
> people who are looking to solve and resolve specific issues that
> *they*
> have run into or inherited, either for work for otherwise. There are a
> lot of other people who contribute as well. But code resilience and
> drive comes almost exclusively from these two sets of people.

you have much more experience in this area - but as far as India is
concerned, the people in 'a' only contribute as long as the money is
available.

> And finally, open source isnt just about Code, its also about the
> entire
> ecosystem that facilities this code exchange, use, feedback and
> communities. Lots of the 'people' involved at various levels are
> solving
> their own specific issues, join them with constructive feedback and
> make
> it easy for people to bridge the gap from user to abuser to
> contributor,
> and we all win.

this very true - unfortunately in India a few people have misunderstood
linus's 'show me the code' quote and a lot of their clueless followers
still believe that only those who write code are contributing to open
source.

>  Create silo's and everyone loses.
> 
> > will show a huge number from India. Of these users, in my opinion,
> less
> > than 5% are contributors to open source. I recognise many names in
> the
> 
> I wasent, just as the OP, looking for your opinion. that link points
> to
> a set of people who's code ( or lack of ) is very visible. Look at it,
> treat it as you will and move on. Your opinion is a bit redundant
> here.

what are you getting uptight about? You stated an opinion. I stated an
opinion. I may feel your's is redundant and you may feel mine is. Chill.
> 
> > As for your analogy, if you want to know the number of people who
> travel
> > by train to go bird watching, it is foolish to watch the trains and
> try
> > to identify the 0.0001 percentage of the travelers who are going to
> > watch birds - it is far easier to go to the bird sanctuary and find
> out
> > the number of people there who commute by train. 
> 
> Sure, and you will find them as they get off the train at the
> sanctuary
> entrance. Did you confuse yourself a bit trying to come up with an
> analogy  ?
> 
> 

not really - my analogy is quite clear.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves

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