Hi Giris,
your judgement towards engineering is wrong.
Also UI can not be created with just jquery and html alone. These languages
used to convert creative works to usable product.
Moreover we need to understand the DOM and how css,html,js works together
gives the better UI. not simply jQuery.
If a person knows above technologies, without jquery u can create better UX.
Also i dont understand why people are talking about php,jsp,cgi for UI
creation.These server sides scripts are used to gather and give u the
response.
If people are capable to write servers and engine to handle http requests
we can call them as engineers .but every so called programmers are just
comsumers of frameworks.
On Jun 24, 2013 10:07 AM, "Girish Venkatachalam" <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> HTML form processing is very very critical.
>
> Yesterday Zico asked me how jQuery is useful to an engineer.
>
> First let us figure what makes an engineer.
>
> Engineers are BE graduates, not MCAs but at least 30% of the engineers
> I have seen
> in software companies are MCA graduates. They may be doing coding but
> they are not
> engineers. And I also rarely find arts graduates doing coding.
>
> Then out of the engineering graduates some go to pursue IAS, some MBA,
> some something else
> and so we are left with around 4 engineers from a class of 40.
>
> Now, the general mindset is that unless you work abroad or work in
> some big MNC your engineering
> talent is not adequate. That is somewhat true. So count out the
> public sector guys. Some public sector
> jobs may be high quality like ISRO, DRDO and so on.
>
> And of course the man makes the job. The job does not make the man. If
> you are motivated enough any
> environment can bring out the engineer in you.
>
> Some engineers go on to teach. Now that is not engineering. Unless the
> college is Stanford or something
> in which the teachers also stay in touch with engineering.
>
> So as you can clearly see the definition of who makes an engineer is
> rather subjective.
>
> Now as a programmer/engineer what importance is to be given to GUI or UI?
>
> It forms a useful addition.
>
> As an entrepreneur without money I have to do all my programming
> myself. Even if I had the money I won't
> get the quality I want if I outsource the UI work to somebody else.
>
> Moreover as a networking professional all my products are accessed
> using a web panel, a web interface.
>
> You need to know html, http and what not.
>
> And from what I have painfully learnt over the years people pay for
> the engineering work only if the work is
> complete with a front view with graphs and html forms and say a
> little bit of animation as well.
>
> In the commercial world people pay money for complete polished
> products with enough technical information
> given in the form of a UI. And in today's world UI means web interface.
>
> But Zoho makes money using windows UI products. They also have several
> products with web interfaces.
>
> At least in my world and in my scheme of things the customer's window
> into my product is using the web interface.
>
> And I would not have stuck to web programming if Javascript was a
> language like Java or php.
>
> Javascript is a genius and so is jQuery.
>
> And moreover the code that I have written in the last 20 days to LUG
> has got such sex appeal that it can easily
> floor anyone.
>
> Including of course the creator.
>
> Okay now let me get to the chase.
>
> HTML forms done in two ways:
>
> using jQuery:
>
> http://awrdev.g3tech.in/jquery_tutorials/htmlforms.html
>
> using CGI:
>
> http://awrdev.g3tech.in/cgi-bin/trial
>
> The CGI version alone has value. The jQuery thing needs to blend with
> the CGI backend to save and retrieve data.
>
> And we have to use Ajax for that.
>
> We will see that in the following days.
>
> So I have moved out of animation now. But I am sure we will go back to it.
>
> jQuery is so delightful.
>
> -Girish
>
> --
> Gayatri Hitech
> http://gayatri-hitech.com
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