Short reply: "I cannot think of a single mail which will be sent to jnu list and not ilugd or vice-versa"
Reply inlined On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Shakthi Kannan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > * A college-specific user group helps in catering to the needs of the > college students, faculty, and management. Agreed (only if it is large enough to sustain itself without external help otherwise it should merge to a bigger identity which can sustain itself) I doubt community in JNU is big enough to solve their issues on their own. (correct me if I am wrong) > * Students graduate and leave every year, but, having a local presence > can help sustain the F/OSS activities through the years. Agreed (local not college level) > * Many a time there are queries related to F/OSS in their respective > labs, and people who are part of the college can discuss it in such a > group. But ilugd is a low frequency mailing list. Let them ask as many questions as they want if community feels that they are creating too much noise, let them create a separate list. Isnt that how community is suppose to operate? > * If you need to organize events, workshops in colleges, it helps to > contact the college user group, and such discussions happen there. > Imagine if there are 70 colleges in and around Delhi and all of them > had discussions simultaneously on the Delhi user group. point 4 Regarding 3 and 4 Since you are a member, I hope you agree that their is not much discussion going on in ilugd anyways. This argument is perfectly valid for creation of separate tamil mailing list on ilugc (I am sure you saw all that fight over tamil language issue going on) I would have supported creation of ilug-jnu if the queries from them (college-specific queries) grows too much. > * It gives the active participants of the college user group, > recognition for their work. After all, it is only in our world, that > true credit is given to people for their work, with no strict > hierarchy. Please explain how does it impact whether a person is sharing a tip on ilug-JNU or ilug-d (I think a person would prefer sharing on ilugd even if (s)he was studying at JNU since that gives a larger name) > The locality can be a college too to help them (online and offline) with: > > * Installing a distribution > * Troubleshooting network connectivity > * Programming help > * System/network configuration help > * Training > * ... But will a JNU student have any objection if a DCE/IIT guy comes and helps him? Then why not post on ilugd (infact, they will post on both) do ilugd members have any problems with JNU ppl posting these queries? at least not yet if they have then make a separate list. What happens is that in this case, anyone in need of help will post on as many mailing lists as possible. (for example, how to config XYZ ISP router or FOSS meet) There will be duplicate mails on both lists. > > --- > | and if its really college specific why is everyone being invited to join? > \-- > > We believe that human knowledge belongs to the world, and it is > important to share it with others. You don't need to join, if you > don't want to help. The issue is not helping and I never said that they cannot create a group. Its their freedom to create and its my freedom (of speech) to object this fragmentation. The problem is if I join the same set of people who are in ilugd will be on the list and will end up sending the same set of queries on both the mailing list. Its good to break up when group becomes too large (eg. ilugc english and tamil) but creating new group with almost same set of members does not appeal to me. [Again, I still respect the right of JNU people to create their own LUG mailing list and go ahead if they think it helps them but I would still object to the idea of this fragmentation] Ashish Bhatia Bachelor+Master of Technology 2010 - IIT Kanpur www.ashishb.net _______________________________________________ Ilugd mailing list [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
