On 1/22/03 1:56 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 06:39  PM, Gerald E. Uhlan wrote:
> 
>>  One other feature I like:  if I'm viewing a page full of photo
>> links that are coded as attachments (such as to Yahoo! messages),
>> instead of
>> simply showing me a new window with the photo in it,
> 
> I understand, but IE isn't simply "showing (you) a new window"- the
> picture has been downloaded into an IE cache file- it's still
> retrievable and it still takes up disk space. You don't think  it's
> there, but it is. Typical of Microsoft heavy- handed paternalism.

I am well aware of the cache, from the old days of the first IE.  Back then,
it caused problems, and you had to constantly empty it.  Not a problem any
more.  Apparently Safari has one - one menu item is "Empty Cache".  Safari
needs to use it.  Perhaps even give you the option as to whether you want to
use a cache or not.

> 
> 
>> Safari automatically
>> downloads it to my desktop,
> 
> You can choose where to d/l files from the 'net. It doesn't have to be
> the desktop. I create new folders and/or use selected ones on for
> various purposes and choose them as appropriate.

Again, the point is it should go into the cache file.  I shouldn't have to
designate/create a folder for stuff I don't want anyway, and then have to
manually delete it.
> 
> 
>> and then shows it to me with Preview,
> 
> This option can be enabled or disabled in Safari prefs.

It should simply use the QuickTime plug-in from within Safari for these
types of files (jpeg, mp3, etc.)

> 
> 
> 
>> whether I
>> wanted to save a copy of it or not.
> 
> Like I said; IE was saving it for you only you didn't know it was
> there. Could lead to trouble,

Hasn't been a problem for years.

 
>> There seems to
>> be no preference to stop this.  In IE, it simply shows a photo to me.
> 
> As you repeat it, so shall I. IE *does* save those images to the disk.
> They *can* be retrieved.

You missed the point.  I never said it didn't save images to the HD.  It
just doesn't handle them properly.  It should be showing photos, movies,
etc., right from within Safari, not opening a separate program for these
common types of files.  Then give me the option to save it in a separate
file from the cache if I want to keep it, not have to go digging around in a
folder full of hundreds of files just to find one or two.

> 
>> 
>> When Safari incorporates these features, I'll love it!
>> 
> 
> 
> What, the feature of leading the user into believing that the files
> aren't really on your HD? Well, maybe Safari isn't for you, then.

IE doesn't leave me a mess of files to have to clean up manually.  I haven't
had to manually empty a cache file in many years.  I know that IE and every
other browser downloads all these files to the HD, but I don't have to go
back and do anything with them afterwards.  And the cache file has a preset
limit on how much HD space it uses, so that's not an issue, either.  A
whopping 10 MB - almost nothing on a 40 gig drive.  No big deal.

Gerry



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