On Dec 12, 2003, at 10:27 pm, Charles Martin wrote:


I should clarify -- I didn't check if they had the chip or the MBs. I wanted to see a name-brand machine that was using the Opteron (which sounds like some rejected name for a Godzilla opponent). They didn't have any.

How many times do I have to tell you guys, the Opteron CPU is a Server version of the AMD A64! The Athlon64 and Athlon64 FX-51 are the consumer versions. If you ask for stuff based on 'Opteron' your bound to receive a cold fish in the face...


I asked if they had any software that took advantage of a 64-bit chip (in the way that certain libraries of programs for the G5 do). They said that to the best of their knowledge, the answer was no.

Not surprising... Mind you there are very limited numbers of Apps that DO (as Chas said) use the G5...


While home-builders (which, despite misconceptions to the contrary, actually make up a tiny percentage of PC buyers) might be able to slap together an Operton-based system

That's part of the problem with the PC market - no-one is bold enough to build their own PC so they end up with half-assed crap that doesn't fit the bill. My PC has never given me any trouble...


most PC buyers don't really see this as a viable (or worthwhile, seeing as how none of their software will be enhanced by it) option at the moment. IMHO, 64-bit on the PC has a ways to go -- probably about two years' worth of way to go.

I agree, PC users are only going to u[grade when a significant advantage can be gleaned from doing so. Look at USB - Apple made it popular in '98, the PC98 and ATX Spec called for it to be included but how many PC people USED it in 1998?


Apple, OTOH, seems have a clear advantage in that regard, and time enough to really take advantage of that if they handle it right.

They've been here before and screwed up. Lets hope history doesn't repeat itself...


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