From: Paul Tansom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Erm, stones throw? The cheapest eMac I can find on eBay is about 6 times
what I paid for this one (I've gone ahead as may be assumed from the
tense used there!). The graphics may well be better, but this eMac
example only has 256M and a 40G HD. I guess having a spare HD saves some
of the cost, but even with adding an 80G drive and 256M RAM (at
MacWarehouse prices, which I'd have thought could be improved on) that
still only gets me half way there.


When I said you were halfway to a new machine, what I meant was this:

Money saved by not upgrading anything: $150-200
PLUS money earned by selling the unit: $150-200
Total: $300-400

Voila! You're MORE than halfway to an eMac!

It's still a step forward
for me though! I do like to make sure I have fall back options on
websites I design, so access to the older browsers is handy.

I want to make it clear here that I *strongly* applaud your conscientiousness as a web designer and interest in preserving backward compatibility.


That's good news. I'm assuming that if I invest in a copy there's none
of the OEM nightmare of the Windows licensing, so if I upgrade I can
return this box to its original OS and move OS X onto new hardware quite
happily.

Yes, that's correct. Your OS X license limits you to installing it on one machine at a time, but it's not locked to that machine or "phones home" in any way so you are free to "revert" when selling the machine and taking the same copy and putting it on another machine. Apple also has a "family license" that allows you to pay slightly less than the price of two copies ($199 instead of $129) and get FIVE licenses. Good deal IMHO.


 That means I can experiment on this slow machine before any
more spending on hardware.

As long as you're aware of how sub-optimal this machine is, I got no problem with that. I just want you to be aware that the experience you're going to have is only passing similar to the experience OS X users on this-century hardware will have.

Well I'm hoping that I may get a pair of 256M SO DIMMs in the machine
even though the manual only quotes 128M as the maximum module size.

According to Low End Mac (.com), it should work. You might only get 384MB of it recognized, since (IIRC) that machine has two DIFFERENT slots and takes two DIFFERENT types of SO-DIMMs, one "lower profile" than the other. Again, lowendmac.com has a lot of info you'd probably find useful on that machine.


I'm not
overly worried if I can't as this is more an experimental machine with
minimum financial outlay - first time I've actually spent money on a
Mac!

I better understand where you're coming from now. I still think the eMac is a better investment, but perhaps that can be your second Mac! :)


 You never know, when I decide to upgrade to a newer machine I may
just throw Linux on the box for fun. If I can do that I can sort out
some slightly newer browsers and email clients and the spec should be
adequate for a basic web/email machine with an SSH client thrown in for
good measure.

Yes indeed!

I take your point about the eMac, but I think with the fact that I have
a spare HD to put in and with a bit of luck finding some bigger memory
modules I can come in well below the cost of an eMac.

Understood.

I'm hoping that having a
Mac around will prove both useful and fun though.

Very much so.

_Chas_

FL-MUG: central Florida's Macintosh User Group.
Meetings: second Thursday of the month, 6-9pm,
at the Orlando Science Center.
http://www.flmug.org


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