On Monday, June 13, 2005, at 10:43  AM, chris wrote:

The all button mouse is pretty, that's why it exists.  I had 2 die on
me.  I suspect poor cabling.

I've not used the newer all button mouse. But the original iMac puck
style mouse (used up until the all button optical mouse was released),
I've had several die on me (I think I'm up to about 10 now).

Sounds like a chronic problem with Apple mice. A skimpy cable is more "elegant" than the more robust ones used on M$ and the like. Part of the image. I MUCH prefer the 2 button rodent (I was raised on them with Amiga ;)

Hey, this is a good time to ask a question about iMac external
monitors.  The worst thing about the iMac isn't the slow speed, but
poor text reading and resolution.  My wife needs 120 character lines
for her work without scrolling and it's hideous.  I would love to put
an external monitor on my 600 MHz graphite.

Apparently the later ones, I "think" this one included (I looked behind
the panel) don't have a VGA plug (why not!?).

I was under the impression all CRT iMacs with firewire have VGA out.

According to the Apple iMac manuals I have, the "later" ones do not have the port. I assumed mine was one as it was about the last before the table lamps.

I was going to tell you it is under a plastic oval shaped grill on the back
of the iMac... but you say you looked under that panel already. So I
guess they did away with the VGA on some models... that kind of sucks.
Odd that they would pull it off for later CRT models, and then put it
back for the flat panel models (in the form of a DVI port instead).

Are you sure you looked under the correct panel?

Bless you my son! 8^) Yes, I did look under the wrong panel, and yes I do have the socket. Thank you, thank you, for forcing me to think outside the box and for getting me off my fat derriere!

It is NOT the flip down
panel that you use to access RAM and Airport. It is an oval plastic
vented panel under the CRT Yoke buldge on the back of the iMac. You need
a screw driver or the likes to pry it off.

I'd double check to be sure you looked under the correct panel.

OK, OK, I said thanks.  ;P

Keep in mind, even if you do find it... the iMac is designed to do mirror
mode video only thru that port. That means you can't set an external
screen to any higher resolution then the CRT supports... not without
risking damage to the CRT. I was able to get mine to go to 1280x1024 at
60 Hz which is the highest my LCD supports. But this is NOT supported by
the iMac, I had to use a 3rd party app to hack OS X to get the
resolution. I was willing to do it because my CRT was already dead, so I didn't mind forcing it into a mode that was bound to damage the CRT (what
was I going to do, break it more?!?)

I haven't even taken advantage of that feature of the PM, even though I've got another 19" monitor next to the one used for the MP! (used it for the now unused Amiga tower).

Still, a very good point that excessive screen settings might do damage to the monitor. Is it possible to disable the iMac monitor? I'd like to avoid the heat and waisted energy. I suppose I could just pull the board off the back of the tube, but other than that, my CRT expertise is zip. Hmmm, I guess it would be important to disable it at the source, for RF reasons as well as safety, yes? It will be living under the desk as well. Any ideas are welcome.

And thanks for the help, Chris! My wife will be thrilled when she gets back. 8^)

 - Peter

PM: 1GHz DP/1 GB/80GBx2/10.2.8
iMac: 600MHz/768MB/40GB/10.2.8
PB: 3400C/9.1
Brother HL-1870N laser, Epson 785EPX, Epson 2450 scanner


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