Ah that makes more sense. I was thinking HSF as in HD format. :)
I think the heat sink is probably attached to the motherboard, right? At least 
it is in the iMacs. 


        -Elliott Price
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On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:

> HSF: Heatsink\Fan (I'm using PC terms, sorry) but it's the massive
> chunk of metal that sits atop the processor, keeping it cool.
> I'm not sure if the 1.2 is identical, and could handle the same heat
> as the 1.4 might throw off, but you should swap, just to be safe.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF?
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christian Wacker <[email protected]>
>> To: imaclist <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm
>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>> 
>> I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am
>> assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system
>> board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load))
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is
>>> on
>>> or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black wire,
>>> as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch
>>> is
>>> a momentary switch.  So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was
>>> when
>>> I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4
>>> and
>>> put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same
>>> including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the
>>> monitor/computer.
>>> Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Elliott Price <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm
>>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>>> 
>>> I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or
>>> button.
>>> (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though,
>>> and
>>> beep
>>> a lot.
>>> You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor...
>>> although I
>>> doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an eMac,
>>> but I
>>> have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking out
>>> the
>>> twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    -Elliott Price
>>> Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
>>> Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
>>> Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites
>>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to
>>>> know that they are "nude" and won't run until you "clothe" them (put
>>>> their shell back on)?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and
>>>>> momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable going
>>>>> to
>>>>> the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure
>>>>> it
>>>>> worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the
>>>>> power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power
>>>>> button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and straighten
>>>>> it
>>>>> out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not the
>>>>> problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is
>>>>> turned
>>>>> on.
>>>>> Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that
>>>>> matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Elliott Price <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's
>>>>> "pressed" that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button
>>>>> assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get
>>>>> the
>>>>> button/case part with the button in it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Elliott Price
>>>>> Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
>>>>> Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
>>>>> Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites
>>>>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo
>>>>> drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super drive.
>>>>> I
>>>>> learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I
>>>>> messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting
>>>>> out
>>>>> the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power
>>>>> strip
>>>>> and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage.
>>>>> That
>>>>> makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not
>>>>> yet.
>>>>> My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I
>>>>> needed
>>>>> to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now, when
>>>>> I
>>>>> turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long
>>>>> enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it completely
>>>>> goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a
>>>>> 1.2
>>>>> GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it to
>>>>> the
>>>>> local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's
>>>>> something
>>>>> simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard
>>>>> assembly
>>>>> into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same
>>>>> problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem?
>>>>> Garth
>>>>> MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>>> eMac 1.4
>>>>> eMac 1.2
>>>>> Beige G3
>>>>> G4 Yikes
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. I've taken apart plenty
>>>>> of
>>>>> computers, both Macs and Windows so I'm not afraid to turn a screw
>>>>> driver.
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