eMacs are great investment for the money. They will run OS X.5.8 and you can 
put in a generic super drive from the regular PC world as well as an IDE hard 
drive and PC memory as well. Yes, they are really cool looking too. The nice 
thing is they have 3 USB 2.0 ports as well as 2 Firewire ports and a mini VGA 
which you need an Apple adapter to be able to use it. Apple has locked it into 
video mirroring mode because they want to be able to sell the higher end Macs. 
Someone has a way to get around it and make it possible to do spanning of your 
desktop instead of just video mirroring. I've got the adapter. You can get one 
from an Apple store, the adapter, for about $19.95 plus tax of course. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott Price <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.


I've never encountered an eMac... We were thinking of getting my little brother 
one a while ago, since they're a really good deal for the Ghz. 
I think they look pretty nice, too, almost like something out of a sci-fi 
movie. 

Anyways, Garth, let us know how your various experiments go. 


    -Elliott Price
Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites

On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:

> I start my delve into the innerds of eMacs in 2 weeks, because my
> school is getting rid of all the broken 1.4ghz ones, so i'm getting
> them, to fix into atleast one working one.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's okay to us PC terms because all computers are PC's, as it's the
>> operating system that makes a Mac a Mac and a Windows machine a Window
>> machine, Linux, etc. The HSF is actually a heat sink attached to a heat pipe
>> that has fins attached to it on both the 1.2 and 1.4 machine. From what I
>> understand, the 1.4 is a speed bump of the 1.2 machine and depending on the
>> options, could have bigger hard drives and a super drive instead of a combo
>> drive. Until I'd taken this eMac apart, I'd never done one, just iMacs,
>> iBooks, and other towers. iBooks are a real pain to replace hard drives on,
>> but not impossible.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christian Wacker <[email protected]>
>> To: imaclist <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:15 pm
>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>> 
>> HSF: Heatsink\Fan (I'm using PC terms, sorry) but it's the massive
>> chunk of metal that sits atop the processor, keeping it cool.
>> I'm not sure if the 1.2 is identical, and could handle the same heat
>> as the 1.4 might throw off, but you should swap, just to be safe.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm going to try that, swapping boards. What is HSF?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christian Wacker <[email protected]>
>>> To: imaclist <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 5:10 pm
>>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>>> 
>>> I would assume so, just try and transfer the HSF over as well. (I am
>>> assuming this, seeing as almost every G3 iMac can have it's system
>>> board swapped with any other G3 iMac (as long as it is slot load))
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> You are correct, there isn't a sensor that will determine if the case is
>>>> on
>>>> or not. No, I don't leave the twist tie connecting the red and black
>>>> wire,
>>>> as that was only a momentary connection just to turn it on as the switch
>>>> is
>>>> a momentary switch.  So at this point in time, I'm no closer than I was
>>>> when
>>>> I started. Is it possible to take the mother board assembly from the 1.4
>>>> and
>>>> put it into the 1.2 eMac case? They both seem to be exactly the same
>>>> including all the connections from the motherboard to the rest of the
>>>> monitor/computer.
>>>> Thanks again Elliot and all those that might have any suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Elliott Price <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 4:46 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think so... None of the Macs I've worked on have a sensor or
>>>> button.
>>>> (Oh, well, except the PowerMac G5) Some PC's have that feature, though,
>>>> and
>>>> beep
>>>> a lot.
>>>> You might look around for a button or slot that could be a sensor...
>>>> although I
>>>> doubt that would be turning it off. I've never actually worked on an
>>>> eMac,
>>>> but I
>>>> have had problems with power buttons before. You might try just taking
>>>> out
>>>> the
>>>> twist tie, and powering it up with a keyboard that has a power button on
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    -Elliott Price
>>>> Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
>>>> Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
>>>> Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Christian Wacker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I might not be correct, but aren't alot of modern macs smart enough to
>>>>> know that they are "nude" and won't run until you "clothe" them (put
>>>>> their shell back on)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm not using the power button at all but rather taking a twist tie and
>>>>>> momentarily connecting the red wire to the black wire on the cable
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the switch. I don't have the case on it at all as I wanted to make sure
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> worked before I put the case back on. When I put the power cable to the
>>>>>> power button, I had managed to bend the pin in the middle of the power
>>>>>> button without realizing it. Yes, I did manage to lift it and
>>>>>> straighten
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> out by using a 1/16 flat screwdriver. So getting it turned on is not
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem, but rather the fact the compute won't stay on after it is
>>>>>> turned
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>> Thanks. Any other suggestions from you Elliot? Or anyone else for that
>>>>>> matter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Elliott Price <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: eMac hardware problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Check to make sure that the power button isn't shorting out, if it's
>>>>>> "pressed" that could cause the problem you're describing. Is the button
>>>>>> assembly removable? You could post on LEM swap and see if you can get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> button/case part with the button in it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Elliott Price
>>>>>> Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara
>>>>>> Graphic Design - Artwork Setup
>>>>>> Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites
>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have an eMac 1.4 GHz which is a 2005 that had a 80 GB HD and a combo
>>>>>> drive. I wanted to upgrade the hard drive to a 500 GB and a super
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> learned the hard way about being careful when pulling the case off as I
>>>>>> messed up the power button. Yes, I know how to turn it on by shorting
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> the red and black wire to turn it on and then plugging it into a power
>>>>>> strip
>>>>>> and setting it up in preferences to come back on after a power outage.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> makes it possible to not have to replace the power button, at least not
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>> My problem is that once I turned it on, I got a message that said I
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> to turn it off by pressing the reset button or the off switch. Now,
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> turn it on, the eMac will stay on for a couple of minutes, but not long
>>>>>> enough to fully boot, and then I hear it shutting down and it
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> goes back off. I took the hard drive in it originally and put it into a
>>>>>> 1.2
>>>>>> GHz machine and it boots up just fine. I really don't want to take it
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> local Apple store and spend $85 to have them check it out if it's
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> simple. Also, does anyone know if I can put the 1.4 GHz motherboard
>>>>>> assembly
>>>>>> into the 1.2 GHz, which does work. If I did that, and I get the same
>>>>>> problem, would that mean it's now the motherboard that is the problem?
>>>>>> Garth
>>>>>> MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>>>> eMac 1.4
>>>>>> eMac 1.2
>>>>>> Beige G3
>>>>>> G4 Yikes
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give. I've taken apart plenty
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> computers, both Macs and Windows so I'm not afraid to turn a screw
>>>>>> driver.
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