Richard,
If one were to modify the files while the list server is doing the same, you
could have problems. But if you can make sure that this does not happen, then
you could modify the list files. If the form of the files is not correct, that
too, could cause trouble for the list server.
Daniel Donnelly
Ipswitch Technical Support
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In reply to 6 Jul message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>Dan,
>Thanks. I'll go get the patch and then redo the lists.
>One last question. Any chance that saving plain text files as the
>users.lst and users.txt files could impact the program - or do these
>absolutely need to be created/imported directly from the Listserver
>applet?
>Thanks again.
>RFS
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel
Donnelly
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 12:10 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Redundant list postings problem
>>
>>
>> When you delete the lists, the aliases should go with them. Except for
the
>> 'listserv' and if you delete that one, the List Server app will
re-create
>> it.
>>
>> Creating a List causes the creatino of 3 aliases: listname,
>> listname-owner and
>> owner-listname.
>>
>> At the very least, I'd update your system to the 4.07 patch from
>> our web site.
>> To get V5.05, you would have to purchase a Service Agreement.
>> Doing this will
>> not 'fix' your problem.
>>
>> Daniel Donnelly
>> Ipswitch Technical Support
>> ________________________________________________________
>> See our Knowledge Base at http://support.ipswitch.com/kb
>> URL for List Servers:
http://www.ipswitch.com/Support/mailing-lists.html
>>
>>
>> In reply to 6 Jul message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>>
>> >Dan,
>>
>> >Okay, delete the lists. But, what about all those aliases. What are
>>
>necessary/defaults, and what can I get rid of? I want to make sure
>> >everything is as clean as it can be and still run. I have run into
>> >problems before when inheriting messy configurations from others who
>> >neglect to delete things no longer operating, or who have attempted to
>>
>set something up, failed, and just left everything half-done.
>>
>> >RFS
>>
>> >PS, I understand your preference for using the machinename.domain.com
>>
>configuration, but am not eager to advertise the actual structure of
>> the
>> >domain and its machines to the world in general, as I've had problems
>>
>with a particular Warez group and http/ftp attacks in the past.
>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel
>> Donnelly
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 11:33 AM
>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Redundant list postings problem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Richard,
>> >>
>> >> In 4.03, I would not use the IMail Administrator for creating the
>> lists.
>> >> Actually, I don't like your system configuration (that first domain
>>
>> (machine.domain1.com) should be the one you use for domain1.com
>> >> and its users.
>> >> The mail. is redundant and not needed.
>> >>
>> >> To fix the Lists, I'd delete them all. Then using the IMail List
Server
>> >>
>> applet, re-create the lists (maybe just one to test!) using the
>> >> _exact_ same
>> >> names. With a bit of luck, this will find your existing files and
the
>> list
>> >> will now work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In reply to 6 Jul message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi,
>> >>
>> >> >I have I-mail 4.03 installed on NT 4.
>> >> >The general e-mail portion has worked flawlessly for a couple of
>> years.
>> >> >But recently ran into a problem with the list server.
>> >>
>> >> >I currently have three virtual domains configured.
>> >>
>> >> >1st is one that was set up with the machinename.domainname1.com I'm
>>
not
>> >> >sure if this is a default or just the person installing it did
that.
>> At
>> >> >any rate, there are no users other than root and aliases of
listserv
>> >> and
>> >> >postmaster. No one has actually uses any an e-mail address there.
>> >> There
>> >> >are no lists there.
>> >>
>> >> >2nd is mail.domainname1.com
>> >> >This is for the mail to/from one domain in the network. It includes
36
>> >>
>> >users from an NT domain. It has aliases of postmaster and root.
There
>> >> >are no lsts there.
>> >>
>> >> >The 3rd is mail.domainname2.com
>> >> >This is for mailto/from a second domain on the network. It includes
5
>> >>
>> >users. It is also used to send out targeted e-mail newsletters. It
has
>> >> >aliases of:
>> >>
>> >> >listname1
>> >> >listname1-owner
>> >> >listname2
>> >> >listname2-owner
>> >> >listname3
>> >> >listname3-owner
>> >> >listserv
>> >> >owner-listname1
>> >> >owner-listname2
>> >> >owner-listname3
>> >> >postmaster
>> >> >root
>> >>
>> >> >I had successfully set up the first list using the listserver
command
>> >>
>> >from the Start Programs menu and sent out a Newsletter on previous
>> >> >occasions to around 200 subscribers.
>> >>
>> >> >A couple days ago I set up lists 2 & 3. List 1 with about 40
>> >> >subscribers and list 2 with about 320. I sent out the initial
>> >> >Newsletters to these folks on Friday PM. Got the usual few bad
e-mail
>> >>
>> >messages, and went home.
>> >>
>> >> >As a check, I always include my home e-mail in the lists. On the
>> >> >following day, while checking my home e-mail, I noticed I'd received
6
>> >>
>> >copies of list #3's Newsletter.
>> >>
>> >> >I went back to the office and dicovered that everyone on the list
was
>> >>
>> >receiving multiple copies. The server seemed to be repeatedly mailing
>>
>> >out just that one list every 4 hours. So I deleted the list (via the
>>
>>
>> >listserver view box) as a way to stop that redundancy. I crafted an
>> >> >apology letter and set up the list again and sent the letter. The
>>
>> >server immediately sent out 3 copies of the letter to everyone on that
>>
>>
>> >list. Deleted it again via the listserver view box.
>> >>
>> >> >So, I've done some investigating to try to figure out what was
going
>> >> on.
>> >> >Noticed that all of the lists appeared under all of the domains via
>>
the
>> >> >Imail administrator view (vs. the Listserver view). I proceeded to
>>
>> >remove the lists from virtual domains 1 & 2 whilst leaving virtual
>> >> >domain 3 as it is above.
>> >>
>> >> >Now, none of the lists appears in the listserver view. In
addition,
>> >> the
>> >> >users and addresses have all gone, though the lists still appear
(as
>> >> >above) in the I-mail administrator view.
>> >>
>> >> >So, my question is, what is the correct way to configure these
lists.
>> >>
>> >Should I be doing it via the listserver command view, or in Imail
>> >> >administrator view? Why did the one list go recundant on me? How
do
>> I
>> >> >prevent that from occuring again? (In this case a 3rd time would
not
>> be
>> >> >charming at all).
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks to anyone who can answer these questions for me.
>> >>
>> >> >Richard F. Schriever, Ph.D.(ABD)
>> >> >Director - Internetworking
>> >> >GreenLight Communications
>> >> >366 San Miguel Drive, 2nd Floor
>> >> >Newport Beach, CA 92660-7811
>> >>
>> >> >TEL +1-949-719-6400 ext 115
>> >> >FAX +1-949-719-6414
>> >>
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