Thanks, Dan, that's exactly what I did was add the mail server IP address to
the hosts file as a short term solution.
Regards,
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] delivery to A records
This is exactly what a mail server is supposed to do, so it is not a
'problem'. That they have a mail server on the web host and do not have it
configured correctly, is the real problem! All they have to do is shut it
off!
If you wish to bypass DNS, then add entries to the HOSTS file. In this case,
the IP of the MX host then the domain name, i.e.:
207.225.40.3 paml.com
Since NT uses hosts before DNS lookup, this will cause IMail to get the MX
hosts IP and use that and no other lookup is required. Of course if they
change their mail server, you won't know that until mail starts bouncing and
you do some new lookups for the new IP.
Personally, I would not do the hosts file change. Send a message to the
postmaster, tell him the error of his ways and hope he is smart enough to
learn from your experience. Now if we could only get people to type the www.
in Web Browsers, then it would not need the IP on the domain!!!
Daniel Donnelly
Ipswitch Technical Support
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In reply to 1 Dec message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>I have experience this problem, as well (see example log entry below).
>In this case the "A" record for paml.com points to their web server and
>not the same IP address and "A" record as the "MX record, which points
>to mail.paml.com. And to make things worse, the web servers appears to
>be running an SMTP service, as well, but which refuses to relay for the
>domain paml.com (I know, this is really a problem with the way they
have
>things setup on their end, but the reality is that we have to deal with
>these kinds of problems everyday). If there is a way to disable the
"A"
>record delivery attempts, please let us know how to do it.
>Thanks,
>Bill Landry
>Pointshare
>===================
>DNS Record (note the "MX" record points to mail.paml.com, which has an
>"A" record pointing to 207.225.40.3. When that failed it tried the "A"
>record for the domain paml.com, which is pointed to 216.25.91.229):
>Query:All records (ALL):paml.com
>Authoritative Answer
>paml.com A 216.25.91.229
>paml.com NS dns1.interland.net
>paml.com NS dns2.interland.net
>paml.com NS dns3.interland.net
>paml.com SOA dns1.interland.net root.dns1.interland.net paml.com MX 5
>mail.paml.com
>paml.com NS dns1.interland.net
>paml.com NS dns2.interland.net
>paml.com NS dns3.interland.net
>dns1.interland.net A 208.233.88.10
>dns2.interland.net A 208.233.88.15
>dns3.interland.net A 208.233.88.20
>mail.paml.com A 207.225.40.3
>Complete: paml.com
>==========================
>IMail Log (note it tried the "MX" first and failed to connect then
tried
>the "A" record and connected but got denied stating that "Unable to
>relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and closed the connection):
>12:01 08:45 SMTPD(07760096) [206.114.136.176] connect 207.108.53.70
port
>14040
>12:01 08:45 SMTPD(07760096) [207.108.53.70] HELO Norm 12:01 08:45
>SMTPD(07760096) [207.108.53.70] MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>12:01 08:45 SMTPD(07760096) [207.108.53.70] RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>12:01 08:45 SMTPD(07760096) [207.108.53.70] M:\IMAIL\spool\D50c1096.SMD
>630 12:01 08:45 SMTP-(0000018B) processing M:\IMAIL\spool\Q50c1096.SMD
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) Trying paml.com (0)
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) MX connect fail "207.225.40.3" 12:01 08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) Connect paml.com [216.25.91.229:25] (2) 12:01 08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) 220-proserver86 Microsoft SMTP MAIL ready at Wed, 1 Dec
>1999 11:46:12 -0500 Version: 5.5.1877.197.19 12:01 08:46
SMTP-(0000018B)
>220 ESMTP spoken here
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) >EHLO mail.bfispokane.com 12:01 08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) 250-proserver86 Hello [206.114.136.176] 12:01 08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) 250-AUTH=LOGIN
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-AUTH NTLM LOGIN
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-AUTH=NTLM LOGIN
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-SIZE 2097152
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-ETRN
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-PIPELINING
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-8bitmime
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-TURN
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-ATRN
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250-STARTTLS
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250 TLS
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12:01
>08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK 12:01
>08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12:01 08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) 550 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12:01 08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) >QUIT
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) 221 proserver86 Service closing
transmission
>channel
>12:01 08:46 SMTP-(0000018B) Creating message from Postmaster 12:01
08:46
>SMTP-(0000018B) finished M:\IMAIL\spool\Q50c1096.SMD status=2
>========================
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hugo A. Uriona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday,
>December 01, 1999 6:52 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [IMail Forum] delivery to A records
>When the connection to the MX record for the destination host fails,
>IMail attempts to deliver
>the message to the A record. The problem is that usually the A record
>points to the web server of that domain which does not relay messages.
>Is there a way to keep the message in the queue and have IMail keep
>trying the MX record host later?
>Hugo A. Uriona
>Unete - Bolivia
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