We work with several graphic design firms, and sometimes the layouts they want get a bit complex with the alignment and stretching needed. Floating DIVs come in handy to do it pretty easily in IE, and we can get around the box margin discrepancies between IE and Moz without much difficulty... then we come to IE for Mac where floating DIVs don't render properly and inconsistent alignment handling becomes a problem, and we have to resort back to table designs. Been doing cross-platform development for 10 years now, myself <g>.
Darin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac I agree with Martin about this - I've been developing cross-browser websites for 8 years and though there have always been tweaks and work-arounds for certain tags and how they display, it isn't all that hard to do. Though what Darin says is true (about standards and about CSS in general), Ipswitch should still be able to easily generate some simple templates that work on most browsers on both platforms. Just my two cents. Darin Cox wrote: >Totally agree. A browser compatibility list is a must for any web app. > >Our problems have been in having to avoid newer CSS layout methods due to >compatibility requirements with IE 5.x on Mac. Microsoft dropped the >product, so I wish the user community would <g>. > >Darin. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Darin Cox" <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:14 AM >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac > > >Hi, > >I have to clarify my statement "First of all, I can not understand, how a >web programmer is able to create html/css/dhmtl/js-code that is not >mac-compatible". > >We do lot of web design stuff and we create websites without any problems to >run with mac's. I'm quite familiar with the problems that can occur. > >This means, a designer must take care, that a modern product runs on a mac >using up-to-date browsers. I agree, that an old IE 4.x on OS9 is hardly to >support and not an issue. > >Ipswicth should gives us a clear statemtent, if the WebMail runs on eg. >Safari, Opera, on a tupperware pc, ähhm mac. > >============================================ >Am Samstag, 5. November 2005 um 14:43 schrieben Sie: > > > >>>First of all, I can not understand, how a web programmer is able to create >>> >>> >>html/css/dhmtl/js-code that is not mac-compatible. >> >> > > > >>Because the browser rendering engines are significantly different. While >>Safari is bsed on Mozilla and will most likely work, IE for Mac is _very_ >>different from IE for Windows...especially in CSS layouts. Not having a >>Mac, I've found it extremely difficult to design for Mac audiences using >>newer layout methods, and have generally had to revert to table layouts to >>avoid CSS inconsistencies that would cause rendering on IE for Mac to fail >>miserably.... but again Safari may work fine. >> >> > > > >>>Secondly, our isp customers and imail customers are living in a mixed >>> >>> >>world. This means: wintel's and mac's. >> >> > > > >>Yes, but most development shops are Windows-only based. I've run into >>several third party web apps that could not tell me whether their products >>worked on a Mac because they didn't have equipment to develop or test >> >> >with. > > > >>We'll be buying a Mac sometime soon to better test web apps for that >>audience. >> >> > > > >>>Today I sold a IMail subscription to an college having 4000 accounts, >>> >>> >>containing a few hundreds IMac's. Do I run in troubles now? >> >> > > > >>See if it doesn't work fine in Safari. >> >> > > > >>Darin. >> >> > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "IMail Forum" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:15 PM >>Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac >> >> > > > > >>Hi, >> >> > > > >>Did i understand the postings correctly, that the new webmail of IMail >> >> >2006 > > >>does not work on Mac's? I really hope, this is wrong. >> >> > > > >>First of all, i can not understand, how a web programmer is able to create >>html/css/dhmtl/js-code that is not mac-compatible. >> >> > > > >>Secondly, our isp customers and imail customers are living in a mixed >> >> >world. > > >>This means: wintel's and mac's. >> >> > > > >>Without mac support, the customers won't move to imail 2006 at all. >> >> > > > >>Today i sold a imal subscription to an college having 4000 accounts, >>containing a few hundreds IMac's. Do i run in troubles now? >> >> > > > >>If this is really true, i would re-scedule the release date of Imail until >>this issue is solved. >> >> > > > >>Would anybody from ipswitch confirm this issue, or better say: "It's a >> >> >nasty > > >>halloween joke"?? >> >> > > > >============================================ > > > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses.] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
