RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Browser Support was IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:35:22 -0800

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Agreed. Its there money. If they are so stuck on supporting a unsupported browser then they should pay the price.
 
 
Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Browser Support was IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

Hi Kevin,
 
I was just kidding.  While I agree with you, and we strongly encourage Mac users to use Safari or Firefox, if a customer of a development project decides they have to have IE for Mac support (as a recent one did despite our arguments to switch browsers), then it's either accommodate that requirement or refuse the project.

Darin.
 
 
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Browser Support was IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

Sure I will get on a call with you. I let users know up front that IE for MAC is now less that 1% of the users and supporting it on a web site just is not cost effictive if they want it I will still do it but it just does not make any sence. It would be like still supporting IE 3.x on windows and yes I do still see hits for ie 3.x on may of the websites I manage.
 
When getting users to move to Firefox they normally thank me because all the little shit bugs IE for Mac in normal daily browsing are gone.
 
 
Kevin Bilbee
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

Can I get you on a conference call with a couple of our customers to let them know they shouldn't use or support IE for Mac? <g>
 
Seriously, though... there are a lot of IE for Mac users out there still.  We ask up front if the customer wants to support it before starting layout work.

Darin.
 
 
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

IE for mac should no longer be used. Due to incompatability with newer standards, It should be in the ball park with netscape 4.x and anyone using it will continue to have issues which will get worse as time goes on.
 
 
Kevin Bilbee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

Our issues have been with IE for Mac, Safari has been fine.  IE for Mac has a number of well-known CSS bugs...perhaps one minor reason why the product has been discontinued by MS.  It has nothing to do with PC vs. Mac... or "non-compliant code".

Darin.
 
 
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

I think it comes down to basic use of internet standards (w3.org). Mac browsers, FireFox and Safari are as just as compatible with proper internet standards as any compatible pc browser. Where you find troubles are when you start slinging non compliant code that runs on PC browsers, then expecting Mac browsers to do the same...



On Nov 5, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Darin Cox wrote:

Totally agree.  A browser compatibility list is a must for any web app.

Our problems have been in having to avoid newer CSS layout methods due to
compatibility requirements with IE 5.x on Mac.  Microsoft dropped the
product, so I wish the user community would <g>.

Darin.





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