Looks like they just updated it: http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030513-DM01.htm
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Riddle Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 7:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail and Antispam... Is this why you guys seem to have abandoned updating the filters for people not paying for the premium anti-spam or using Imail 8.1x http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20030513-DM01.htm Last time these filters were updated was nearly two months ago on 10/12/2005 At 06:11 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Regarding this, wanted to add some comments: > >"I know, lots of you here in our club are not really a fan of the anti-spam >tools from IMail, but it works pretty good, thanks to our monster phrase >list and url block list." > ><AntiSpamPlug> > >We continue to update our standard antispam that is included with IMail >Server - glad to hear it's working well. We also offer Mail-Filters for our >premium antispam which is part of the coming soon IMail Secure Server. >Starting in a few weeks when IMail 2006 and IMail Secure Server 2006 ship, >you no longer have to purchase the full collaboration suite in order to get >premium antispam. Here is a link that provides more details about the >premium antispam. >http://www.ipswitch.com/products/collaboration/spam.asp > >Our customers seem to be happy with the results but I invite other IMail >premium antispam customers to provide their own experiences. Customers >mostly turn on the antispam and let it run - very low maintenance. False >positive rate is about 1 in 500,000 and spam is recognized in 30 languages. >I personally have stopped filtering through my Spam folder (checking for >false positives) and some folks have actually removed the rule that >populates the Spam folder and instead deletes all mail marked as spam >straight away, automatically. Updates are delivered as frequently as every >10 minutes, 24x7x365. > >As you might guess, having solid antispam protection is very important to >Ipswitch (and any company for that matter). As a software provider for 15 >years, we send 10's of millions of emails every year, have active mailing >lists (such as this one), active forums, blogs, newsletters, etc. This all >adds up to Ipswitch getting hit with tons of spam every minute of every hour >of every day. We basically went out and looked for an antispam vendor that >we could use for Ipswitch and that we could offer to our customers that was >easy to configure and affordability and we think we have that now. > >Feel free to ask any questions. > ></AntiSpamPlug> > >bye for now, > >kg > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Schaible >Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:38 PM >To: John Carter >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Declude phrase format > > >Hi John, > > > ex: "Don t eat green frog s" would match those other examples because it >views all of them as "Donteatgreenfrogs" ??? >Nope, for that, normalization mus be turned on. And this is too dangerous >and generates tons of false/positives. > > > One problem converting to Declude would be you would have to provide for >all the > > possible literal variations. I think this is what Imail does automatically >when you have > > Normalization OFF - or is ON; someone correct me if I am wrong on this. >IMail does a great job with this literal things with normalizing set to off. >Imagine, how many variants of some specific words you have to type in. > > > Hate to say it, you might stick with Imail on at least this part of >anti-spam. They > > already have it programmed. (Lord, help me for saying this) >Yep, take a beer or two and relax. > > > But if you want to > > follow-up and figure out the substutition logic, I could make an attempt >at a VB program to do the conversion. >Like i said before, maybe i have to run two antispam engines and maintain >two phrase sets until the old one is obsolet. > >This depends also, how the future plans regarding the anti spam tools from >Ipswitch are. > >I know, lots of you here in our club are not really a fan of the anti-spam >tools from IMail, but it works pretty good, thanks to our monster phrase >list and url block list. > >The only problem is actually those silly spam mails containing a simple >image only. A third party anti spam tool would give me the oportunity the >serve our future SmarterMail customers too. Declude would be the product, >which runs on both products. > >============================================ >Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 um 02:02 schrieben Sie: > > > I am sure it can't be this simple, but are you saying basically it is as >if the special characters are not even there? > > > ex: "Don t eat green frog s" would match those other examples because it >views all of them as "Donteatgreenfrogs" ??? > > > One problem converting to Declude would be you would have to provide for >all the > > possible literal variations. I think this is what Imail does automatically >when you have > > Normalization OFF - or is ON; someone correct me if I am wrong on this. > > > Hate to say it, you might stick with Imail on at least this part of >anti-spam. They > > already have it programmed. (Lord, help me for saying this) But if you >want to > > follow-up and figure out the substutition logic, I could make an attempt >at a VB program to do the conversion. > > > John > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > From: Martin Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 00:28:15 +0100 > > >>Hi, > > >>> I'm not familiar with the Imail phrase list. > >>The rules are quite simple. IMail treats the characters >;:,&.%!{}|?<>[]()"_-+*\~`/=^'$@ special. Let's say the phrase "Don t eat >green frog s" would match: > > >>"Don t eat green frog s" > >>"Don_t{!eat green frog<<s" > > >>As you know, spammers are masking words with special characters. > > >>Now we have a big list with phrases, matching this rules. So, we have to >find a way, that this phrases can be used or converted for a different anti >spam software like Declude. > > >>The problem we have: mail servers from our customers are downloading our >files on regular bases. This gives us some income ;-) > > >>IMail has not troubles to handle a 300000 record file at all. > > >>Maybe i have to face the reality and we have to use two anti-spam programs >for a while. > > >>Any ideas are welcome. > > >>============================================ > >>Am Montag, 7. November 2005 um 23:44 schrieben Sie: > > >>> I'm not familiar with the Imail phrase list. > > >>> But having a Declude filter with 350000 records wouldn't be a good >thing. > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "IMail Forum" <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 3:37 PM > >>> Subject: [IMail Forum] Declude phrase format > > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> Some month ago, i asked the guys from declude, if the phrase filter >file > >>>> from IMail can be converted to the format of declude. > > >>>> As you know, IMail treats special characters a bit special. > > >>>> The guy from Declude told me, that a conversion is not possible. He >also > >>>> told me, that maybe a migration software can be programmed. He asked, >on > >>>> how many servers this would run. My answer was "30". After that, i >never > >>>> heard anything... > > >>>> So, did anybody migrate the phrase list from IMail to declude? 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