What is unethical about it? This is a free market, capitalistic society we live in that says I can charge whatever I want and you can decide whether you want to buy it. The people who complained the most over the past 18 months are the ones who are still complaining. It's obvious that the price increase will have to be weighed against the cost of migrating. But the decision is still yours
-----Original Message----- From: Bruce Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. $995.00 is a 50% increase in the prices of last year's SA and that is not only GOUGING, but TOTALLY UNETHICAL! Bruce Barnes ChicagoNetTech Inc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:45 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. To be honest, Kevin did mention what the prices would be close to, however I was in my car driving home after being at a client for 6 hours and I was tired and hungry, so I do not remember what numbers he said, but I will say that either the 1000 user SA or unlimited user SA will have a MSRP of about $995. John T eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. > > Decisions are best based upon facts as opposed speculation. > > Why the mystery about the new cost of SA? Why can't IPSwitch be > upfront, rather than sell the idea of buying an SA at the prevailing > cost? > > > Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:35:28 PM, John T (Lists) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JTL> Responding to several posts and further information. What I am > JTL> going to post > JTL> is my thoughts/opinions/knowledge based on what I have read, > JTL> those I have > JTL> talked to now and in the past, reading between the lines, and my > JTL> gut feelings. And believe me, my gut is way too big. > > JTL> First of all, we all know and understand that Ipswitch really > JTL> took a turn > JTL> for the worse around 3rd quarter of 2004. (It may have even been > JTL> a little > JTL> earlier.) Just prior to that our beloved John Korsak left to > JTL> pursue other > JTL> interests. With that, a new management team was in place at Ipswitch. Part > JTL> of the management was Jill Jones. My conversations with her at > JTL> the time of > JTL> ICS introduction left me with a bad taste, albeit one I was able > JTL> to accept > JTL> under my circumstances. That new management team basically turned > JTL> a deaf > ear > JTL> to the needs of many us, being ISPs and small to large hosting providers. > > JTL> Well, it appears that Jill Jones is either no longer with > JTL> Ipswitch or has > JTL> been reassigned to a lesser role and Kevin Gillis is now in > JTL> charge or major > JTL> part of Product Management. I am not sure what his exact title is. > > JTL> The gist of this is that Ipswitch decided in the second half of > JTL> 2004 that > JTL> they wanted to pursue a different cliental, underestimating the > JTL> value of > JTL> their current client base at that time. In doing so, they > JTL> alienated many of > JTL> us, and lost a lot of business which was not recovered in their > JTL> new focus > JTL> like they thought it would. Now they have a new/revamped > JTL> management team > in > JTL> place and have realized the harm that was done and are making progress > JTL> towards resolving that. Are they going to win back everyone who > JTL> left, no. > JTL> Are they going to please everyone, no. But they are trying, and > JTL> they are > JTL> listening. > > JTL> It appears that they are now going to offer Imail in 3 forms: Standalone, > JTL> Secure server, and a complete Suite. Each will be offered in 5 > JTL> levels based > JTL> on users: 25, 100, 250, 1000 and unlimited. Personally, I would > JTL> have like to > JTL> seen 100, 250, 1000, 5000 and unlimited. Although I do not know > JTL> what exactly > JTL> the new prices will be for standalone, from what Kevin told me on > JTL> the phone > JTL> while I was driving home I for the most part accept as sensible > JTL> what the > JTL> pricing will be except like I said I feel drop the 25 and add 5000. > > JTL> So what does my rambling mean? > > JTL> If you have Imail standalone with/with out a current SA I > JTL> recommend the > JTL> following: > JTL> If you have under 100 users, wait for the new SA pricing. > JTL> If you have over 1000 users, purchase a Imail Professional SA now. > JTL> If you are between those amounts, you could save some money or > JTL> spend a > JTL> little more money if you buy a SA right now. > > JTL> It also means I will continue to use Imail and offer my support/assistance > JTL> to others when I can, continue to offer Imail support services to clients > JTL> and once again offer Imail as a possible solution for clients. > > JTL> John T > JTL> eServices For You > > > > JTL> To Unsubscribe: > JTL> http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > JTL> List Archive: > JTL> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > JTL> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > ---- > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net > (972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 > ---- > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
