Hi Darin, > Hmmm...why don't we stick some in a pressure chamber and find out? <g> Do you clean up the mess afterwards?
============================================ Am Donnerstag, 17. November 2005 um 02:32 schrieben Sie: > Hi Kevin, > Something brought up on another list might add two more items for > consideration: > 1. Ability to enforce strong passwords for user accounts. > 2. Monitor traffic for individual user accounts on an intra-day basis, > perhaps even have a means of detecting sharp increases in traffic from a > particular account and alerting an admin to investigate. > These issues were brought up on another list due to the recent Sober virus, > and the expectation that hacking of user accounts to deliver spam/virus > content is expected to increase. > Kind of like squeezing a water balloon. As more ISPs move to block port 25 > traffic on their networks, and more mail admins require AUTH to send, > spammers will start using other methods to deliver their junk. Let's just > hope spammers and virus writers aren't like an incompressible fluid. > Hmmm...why don't we stick some in a pressure chamber and find out? <g> > Darin. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:14 PM > Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail Feature Requests to Ipswitch... > Hi All, > excellent recommendations. > we're seeing several "per domain" feature requests with both of these (IM & > Calendaring) being near the top - along with as and av. are you looking for > per virtual domain capabilities? > anyone else with feature requests, feel free to send directly to me as well > as, of course, to the forum. we are finalizing and prioritizing items for > upcoming releases. here are a few that several folks have mentioned, in no > particular order: > 1. ability to change order that black/white list is processed (many want > white first) > 2. ability to disable a domain (and all it's users) without deleting > 3. ability to rename host and change IP address from within IMail > 4. Attachment Manager (option to, but not mandatory, to strip off > attachment(s) and replace with a link to the file(s) that have been scanned > for av/as and put on location inside firewall) > 5. ListServ Management (sign-up confirmations, bounce handling, automatic > unsubscriptions) > 6. Notifications for full mailboxes (auto email admin or secondary account > of the mailbox that is full) > 7. Password Rules (min/max chars, special chars required or not, auto > expiring passwords) > 8. Archiving (e.g. domains, users, lists, mailboxes) > 9. A more high-availability/redundant friendly architecture (e.g. remove > dependency on registry) > 10. Performance reporting (e.g. graphical reports on top 10 senders, > receivers in emails/bytes, who's sending the most attachments, who's getting > the most spam/viruses, real time view of how are clients connecting (pop, > imap/web), etc.). > feel free to send back comments/feedback. > bye for now, > kg > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Anton > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. > I SECOND THIS for both IM and Calendaring. As and ISP, we really have no way > to regulate these. > -Chris > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Terence Blyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:00:15 +1300 >>What I would like to see is the shared calendaring working on a per domain >>basis. This would be a great thing to sell as an isp. Also has anyone > looked >>at the price of the licensing that Microsoft want if you are hosting on >>server 2003 ? >>Regards >>Terence Blyth >>Computer Technologies Ltd >>Phone 64 3 545 9001 >>Fax 64 3 545 9002 >>WARNING: The contents of this e-mail may contain information that is > legally >>privileged and/or confidential to the named recipient. This information is >>not to be used by any other person and/or organisation. The views > expressed >>in this document do not necessarily reflect those of Computer Technologies >>Ltd. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Don Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2005 4:17 a.m. >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. >>And you'd be a rich man, too, if the market embraced that pricing. >>However, value is a major portion of the buying decision. >>Many of us have been paying SA for years for a virtually dormant >>product. I remember a time when we were begging for 'some' Spam >>features and were told it would never happen. >>So, now, they want us to fund the R&D effort to make the product >>competitive, but before the product is at the level of value to >>support such a significant increase. >>15-20% of the license price is a relatively common yard stick, and >>that extrapolates into a $6K-$8K street price of Unlimited. >>Nope. "That dog won't hunt." >>It really is too bad that Ipswitch is going to shoot themselves in the >>foot again. You would think they would have learned something from >>the ICS blunder. Getting a customer is hard, but getting one to come >>back is almost impossible . . . >>Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:44:01 PM, John T (Lists) >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> First, I have no affiliation with Ipswitch what so ever. I am a >>JTL> small one person business and in fact I only have about 350 >>JTL> e-mail addresses that my Imail server process e-mail for, so I am >>JTL> small potatoes compared to most of you. I do have the >>JTL> Professional SA and will go towards the unlimited as I hope one >>JTL> day when I have the time to increase the number of e-mail >>JTL> addressed processed on my server to a thousand or so. >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> In spite of others opinions, I do agree that the pricing for a >>JTL> unlimited SA should be higher, as figure what you get out of it. >>JTL> Here is what I think the levels should be and the associated SA >>JTL> pricing for Imail standalone: (note difference in levels after a >>comment by Kevin) >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> 100 User $75 >>JTL> >>JTL> 500 user $150 >>JTL> >>JTL> 1000 user $400 >>JTL> >>JTL> 5000 user $750 >>JTL> >>JTL> Unlimited user $1200 >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> I also think there should be a clustering option for the 5000 >>JTL> user and unlimited user levels, whereby you pay say 50% for the >>JTL> second (3rd 4th 5th whatever) license but one SA covers all the >>JTL> servers in the cluster. (There would need to be some way of >>JTL> making the activation and use of the additional licenses >>JTL> dependent on the first one. If SA was renewed, all would accept >>updates, upgrades.) >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> John T >>JTL> >>JTL> eServices For You >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> -----Original Message----- >>JTL> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>JTL> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matrosity >>Hosting >>JTL> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:16 AM >>JTL> To: [email protected] >>JTL> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> That would pretty much clinch Imail server as being >>JTL> extortionware in my book. There's simply no reason in my mind >>JTL> that we should be pay another 50% increase for an SA two years in >>JTL> a row. I think I'll look into investing in Smartertools as >>JTL> they're about to get another big boost in revenue. >>JTL> >>JTL> John T (Lists) wrote: >>JTL> >>JTL> To be honest, Kevin did mention what the prices would be close to, >>however I >>JTL> was in my car driving home after being at a client for 6 hours and I >>was >>JTL> tired and hungry, so I do not remember what numbers he said, but I > will >>say >>JTL> that either the 1000 user SA or unlimited user SA will have a MSRP of >>about >>JTL> $995. >>JTL> >>JTL> John T >>JTL> eServices For You >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> -----Original Message----- >>JTL> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- >>JTL> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown >>JTL> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:10 AM >>JTL> To: [email protected] >>JTL> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. >>JTL> >>JTL> Decisions are best based upon facts as opposed speculation. >>JTL> >>JTL> Why the mystery about the new cost of SA? Why can't IPSwitch be >>JTL> upfront, rather than sell the idea of buying an SA at the prevailing >>JTL> cost? >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:35:28 PM, John T (Lists) >>JTL> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>JTL>> Responding to several posts and further information. What I am going >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> to post >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> is my thoughts/opinions/knowledge based on what I have read, those I >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> have >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> talked to now and in the past, reading between the lines, and my gut >>JTL>> feelings. And believe me, my gut is way too big. >>JTL> >>JTL>> First of all, we all know and understand that Ipswitch really took a >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> turn >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> for the worse around 3rd quarter of 2004. (It may have even been a >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> little >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> earlier.) Just prior to that our beloved John Korsak left to pursue >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> other >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> interests. With that, a new management team was in place at Ipswitch. >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> Part >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> of the management was Jill Jones. My conversations with her at the >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> time of >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> ICS introduction left me with a bad taste, albeit one I was able to >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> accept >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> under my circumstances. That new management team basically turned a >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> deaf >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> ear >>JTL>> to the needs of many us, being ISPs and small to large hosting >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> providers. >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> Well, it appears that Jill Jones is either no longer with Ipswitch or >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> has >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> been reassigned to a lesser role and Kevin Gillis is now in charge or >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> major >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> part of Product Management. I am not sure what his exact title is. >>JTL> >>JTL>> The gist of this is that Ipswitch decided in the second half of 2004 >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> that >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> they wanted to pursue a different cliental, underestimating the value >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> of >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> their current client base at that time. In doing so, they alienated >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> many of >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> us, and lost a lot of business which was not recovered in their new >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> focus >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> like they thought it would. Now they have a new/revamped management >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> team >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> in >>JTL>> place and have realized the harm that was done and are making >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> progress >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> towards resolving that. Are they going to win back everyone who left, >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> no. >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> Are they going to please everyone, no. But they are trying, and they >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> are >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> listening. >>JTL> >>JTL>> It appears that they are now going to offer Imail in 3 forms: >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> Standalone, >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> Secure server, and a complete Suite. Each will be offered in 5 levels >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> based >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> on users: 25, 100, 250, 1000 and unlimited. Personally, I would have >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> like to >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> seen 100, 250, 1000, 5000 and unlimited. Although I do not know what >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> exactly >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> the new prices will be for standalone, from what Kevin told me on the >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> phone >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> while I was driving home I for the most part accept as sensible what >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> the >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> pricing will be except like I said I feel drop the 25 and add 5000. >>JTL> >>JTL>> So what does my rambling mean? >>JTL> >>JTL>> If you have Imail standalone with/with out a current SA I recommend >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> the >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> following: >>JTL>> If you have under 100 users, wait for the new SA pricing. >>JTL>> If you have over 1000 users, purchase a Imail Professional SA now. >>JTL>> If you are between those amounts, you could save some money or spend >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> a >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> little more money if you buy a SA right now. >>JTL> >>JTL>> It also means I will continue to use Imail and offer my >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> support/assistance >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> to others when I can, continue to offer Imail support services to >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> clients >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> and once again offer Imail as a possible solution for clients. >>JTL> >>JTL>> John T >>JTL>> eServices For You >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL>> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>JTL>> List Archive: >>JTL>> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>JTL>> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> ---- >>JTL> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. >>JTL> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net >>JTL> (972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 >>JTL> ---- >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>JTL> List Archive: >>JTL> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>JTL> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>JTL> List Archive: >>JTL> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>JTL> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>JTL> >>---- >>Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net >>(972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 >>---- >>To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ >>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Computer Technologies Ltd >>www.ctec.co.nz] >>To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html >>List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ >>Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ ============================================ -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen -------------------------------------------- Merlin Consulting Martin Schaible Bahnhofstrasse 27 CH-8702 Zollikon Phone: +41 44 391 30 00 Fax: +41 44 391 32 49 Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.merlinconsulting.ch Support: http://support.merlinconsulting.ch GPS: N47 20.235 E8 34.226 -------------------------------------------- News - Neue Produkte: .:. 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