-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail Feature Requests to Ipswitch...
I would like to see the ability to load a text file/xml of email
addresses
for gateway domains for envelope rejection. Also, the ability for this
file
to be re-read without restarting any services.
Darrell
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail Feature Requests to Ipswitch...
> Hi All,
>
> excellent recommendations.
>
> we're seeing several "per domain" feature requests with both of these
(IM
> &
> Calendaring) being near the top - along with as and av. are you
> looking
> for
> per virtual domain capabilities?
>
> anyone else with feature requests, feel free to send directly to me as
> well
> as, of course, to the forum. we are finalizing and prioritizing items
for
> upcoming releases. here are a few that several folks have mentioned,
> in
> no
> particular order:
>
> 1. ability to change order that black/white list is processed (many
> want
> white first)
> 2. ability to disable a domain (and all it's users) without deleting
> 3. ability to rename host and change IP address from within IMail
> 4. Attachment Manager (option to, but not mandatory, to strip off
> attachment(s) and replace with a link to the file(s) that have been
> scanned
> for av/as and put on location inside firewall)
> 5. ListServ Management (sign-up confirmations, bounce handling,
automatic
> unsubscriptions)
> 6. Notifications for full mailboxes (auto email admin or secondary
account
> of the mailbox that is full)
> 7. Password Rules (min/max chars, special chars required or not, auto
> expiring passwords)
> 8. Archiving (e.g. domains, users, lists, mailboxes)
> 9. A more high-availability/redundant friendly architecture (e.g.
> remove
> dependency on registry)
> 10. Performance reporting (e.g. graphical reports on top 10 senders,
> receivers in emails/bytes, who's sending the most attachments, who's
> getting
> the most spam/viruses, real time view of how are clients connecting
(pop,
> imap/web), etc.).
>
> feel free to send back comments/feedback.
>
> bye for now,
>
> kg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Anton
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
>
>
>
> I SECOND THIS for both IM and Calendaring. As and ISP, we really have
> no
> way
> to regulate these.
> -Chris
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Terence Blyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:00:15 +1300
>
>>What I would like to see is the shared calendaring working on a per
domain
>>basis. This would be a great thing to sell as an isp. Also has anyone
> looked
>>at the price of the licensing that Microsoft want if you are hosting on
>>server 2003 ?
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Terence Blyth
>>
>>Computer Technologies Ltd
>>
>>Phone 64 3 545 9001
>>
>>Fax 64 3 545 9002
>>
>>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2005 4:17 a.m.
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
>>
>>And you'd be a rich man, too, if the market embraced that pricing.
>>However, value is a major portion of the buying decision.
>>
>>Many of us have been paying SA for years for a virtually dormant
>>product. I remember a time when we were begging for 'some' Spam
>>features and were told it would never happen.
>>
>>So, now, they want us to fund the R&D effort to make the product
>>competitive, but before the product is at the level of value to
>>support such a significant increase.
>>
>>15-20% of the license price is a relatively common yard stick, and
>>that extrapolates into a $6K-$8K street price of Unlimited.
>>
>>Nope. "That dog won't hunt."
>>
>>It really is too bad that Ipswitch is going to shoot themselves in the
>>foot again. You would think they would have learned something from
>>the ICS blunder. Getting a customer is hard, but getting one to come
>>back is almost impossible . . .
>>
>>
>>Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:44:01 PM, John T (Lists)
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> First, I have no affiliation with Ipswitch what so ever. I am a
>>JTL> small one person business and in fact I only have about 350
>>JTL> e-mail addresses that my Imail server process e-mail for, so I am
>>JTL> small potatoes compared to most of you. I do have the
>>JTL> Professional SA and will go towards the unlimited as I hope one
>>JTL> day when I have the time to increase the number of e-mail
>>JTL> addressed processed on my server to a thousand or so.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> In spite of others opinions, I do agree that the pricing for a
>>JTL> unlimited SA should be higher, as figure what you get out of it.
>>JTL> Here is what I think the levels should be and the associated SA
>>JTL> pricing for Imail standalone: (note difference in levels after a
>>comment by Kevin)
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> 100 User $75
>>JTL>
>>JTL> 500 user $150
>>JTL>
>>JTL> 1000 user $400
>>JTL>
>>JTL> 5000 user $750
>>JTL>
>>JTL> Unlimited user $1200
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> I also think there should be a clustering option for the 5000
>>JTL> user and unlimited user levels, whereby you pay say 50% for the
>>JTL> second (3rd 4th 5th whatever) license but one SA covers all the
>>JTL> servers in the cluster. (There would need to be some way of
>>JTL> making the activation and use of the additional licenses
>>JTL> dependent on the first one. If SA was renewed, all would accept
>>updates, upgrades.)
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> John T
>>JTL>
>>JTL> eServices For You
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> -----Original Message-----
>>JTL> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>JTL> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>Matrosity
>>Hosting
>>JTL> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:16 AM
>>JTL> To: [email protected]
>>JTL> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> That would pretty much clinch Imail server as being
>>JTL> extortionware in my book. There's simply no reason in my mind
>>JTL> that we should be pay another 50% increase for an SA two years in
>>JTL> a row. I think I'll look into investing in Smartertools as
>>JTL> they're about to get another big boost in revenue.
>>JTL>
>>JTL> John T (Lists) wrote:
>>JTL>
>>JTL> To be honest, Kevin did mention what the prices would be close to,
>>however I
>>JTL> was in my car driving home after being at a client for 6 hours and
I
>>was
>>JTL> tired and hungry, so I do not remember what numbers he said, but I
> will
>>say
>>JTL> that either the 1000 user SA or unlimited user SA will have a MSRP
of
>>about
>>JTL> $995.
>>JTL>
>>JTL> John T
>>JTL> eServices For You
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> -----Original Message-----
>>JTL> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
>>JTL> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
>>JTL> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:10 AM
>>JTL> To: [email protected]
>>JTL> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.
>>JTL>
>>JTL> Decisions are best based upon facts as opposed speculation.
>>JTL>
>>JTL> Why the mystery about the new cost of SA? Why can't IPSwitch be
>>JTL> upfront, rather than sell the idea of buying an SA at the
prevailing
>>JTL> cost?
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:35:28 PM, John T (Lists)
>>JTL> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>JTL>> Responding to several posts and further information. What I am
going
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> to post
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> is my thoughts/opinions/knowledge based on what I have read,
>>those
I
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> have
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> talked to now and in the past, reading between the lines, and my
gut
>>JTL>> feelings. And believe me, my gut is way too big.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> First of all, we all know and understand that Ipswitch really
>>took
a
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> turn
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> for the worse around 3rd quarter of 2004. (It may have even been
>>a
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> little
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> earlier.) Just prior to that our beloved John Korsak left to
pursue
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> other
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> interests. With that, a new management team was in place at
>>Ipswitch.
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> Part
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> of the management was Jill Jones. My conversations with her at
>>the
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> time of
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> ICS introduction left me with a bad taste, albeit one I was able
to
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> accept
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> under my circumstances. That new management team basically turned
a
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> deaf
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> ear
>>JTL>> to the needs of many us, being ISPs and small to large hosting
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> providers.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> Well, it appears that Jill Jones is either no longer with
>>Ipswitch
>>or
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> has
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> been reassigned to a lesser role and Kevin Gillis is now in
>>charge
>>or
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> major
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> part of Product Management. I am not sure what his exact title
>>is.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> The gist of this is that Ipswitch decided in the second half of
2004
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> that
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> they wanted to pursue a different cliental, underestimating the
>>value
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> of
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> their current client base at that time. In doing so, they
alienated
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> many of
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> us, and lost a lot of business which was not recovered in their
new
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> focus
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> like they thought it would. Now they have a new/revamped
management
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> team
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> in
>>JTL>> place and have realized the harm that was done and are making
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> progress
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> towards resolving that. Are they going to win back everyone who
>>left,
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> no.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> Are they going to please everyone, no. But they are trying, and
they
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> are
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> listening.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> It appears that they are now going to offer Imail in 3 forms:
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> Standalone,
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> Secure server, and a complete Suite. Each will be offered in 5
>>levels
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> based
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> on users: 25, 100, 250, 1000 and unlimited. Personally, I would
have
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> like to
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> seen 100, 250, 1000, 5000 and unlimited. Although I do not know
what
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> exactly
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> the new prices will be for standalone, from what Kevin told me on
>>the
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> phone
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> while I was driving home I for the most part accept as sensible
what
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> the
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> pricing will be except like I said I feel drop the 25 and add
5000.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> So what does my rambling mean?
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> If you have Imail standalone with/with out a current SA I
recommend
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> the
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> following:
>>JTL>> If you have under 100 users, wait for the new SA pricing.
>>JTL>> If you have over 1000 users, purchase a Imail Professional SA
>>now.
>>JTL>> If you are between those amounts, you could save some money or
spend
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> a
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> little more money if you buy a SA right now.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> It also means I will continue to use Imail and offer my
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> support/assistance
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> to others when I can, continue to offer Imail support services to
>>JTL>
>>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> clients
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> and once again offer Imail as a possible solution for clients.
>>JTL>
>>JTL>> John T
>>JTL>> eServices For You
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
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>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL> ----
>>JTL> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
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>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
>>JTL>
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>>----
>>Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net
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