RE: [IMail Forum] Imail 2006 activation problem

Christopher Jones Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:37:45 -0800

I agree with that…but in 5 years there will no doubt be Imail 2010 available….so why not just upgrade to that? I know that some people like to hold off on upgrades….but at some point Ipswitch will have to stop supporting a product and focus on their new projects.

And you don’t need to expose Imail to the internet to allow the activation. We simply sign in to the firewall on the email server to allow direct access to the web, active Imail, and then sign off. So it’s only for 2 minutes, and even then, the firewall won’t allow access in from the outside so you should be protected. Of course, this all depends on your firewall and the configuration.

Typically you would only allow port 25 inbound from the internet to your imail server (this also depends if you have another mail gateway server in front of Imail like some people do) so being open to vulnerabilities may not be such an issue.

In my setup the only people who have direct access to Imail are internal users for POP3 access….all internal SMTP is via Symantec Mail Security for SMTP which uses port 25, and Imail uses Port 1025. And we use the Access Control list to restrict SMTP access to Imail to only SMS for SMTP and the gateway server we have in our DMZ. Hope that all makes sense…?

Chris

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Imail 2006 activation problem

Agreed! This is a reasonable way to limit abuse and also not cause problems for administrators when things go wrong at inopportune times.

My only concern would be what would happen if you are using software 5 years from now and the activation process is no longer supported??? I would hope that the software is already configured in such a way so that it will unlock automatically. In my case, I don't need to expose IMail to the Internet, and exploits therefore don't necessarily need to be addressed, so it is possible that I could in fact wait 5 years before bothering to upgrade, and no doubt some others will. I would hope that we don't need to rely on Ipswitch or their activation process being a going concern.

Matt

Christopher Jones wrote:

If you do not activate Imail it will still run fine for 30 days….so if your server crashes you have a month to get in contact with Ipswitch and have them allow you another activation. So I can’t really see this being a huge problem.

Chris

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Schaible
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:14 AM
To: Matrosity Hosting
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Imail 2006 activation problem

Hi,

> free isn't always free. you'll know this by adding up all the time you spent learning that "free" software

Yes, this is true. We worked a lot with open source software in the last month. Sometimes we used a lot of time to find correct manuals, updates, or even help.

Now i say "free is not always cheaper".

Regarding the # installation limits of Ipswitch: This "trap" should be better declared somewhere. The best location might be on the paper of the serial key.

This would legalize this limitations, in some countries limitations like this must be declared. If not, it's illegal. This issue has already reported to Ipswitch.

Maybe for IMail the limit should increased from two to three. Most of us are testing the products first before a rollout to the products occurs. So, the maximum is reached.

After a year, maybe the server crashes and has to be reinstalled. A this stage, an admin is in more serious troubles and has not time to mess around for a new activation;-)

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Am Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2005 um 00:48 schrieben Sie:

free isn't always free. you'll know this by adding up all the time you spent learning that "free" software.

Ronald E. Kushner wrote:

Martin Schaible wrote:

Hi Scott,

To reset the installation counter of your license, you have to talk with the customer support.

Activation?

Why do people who run Windoz Server jump through these useless hoops? You know the pirates are never affected much by this, but the valued customers get crapped on.

What happens if the company that can't decide what to do decides to stop running their activation server for the software you own?

I switched two years ago to QmailToaster, steeper learning curve but couldn't resist the price seeing how I service 15,000 mailboxes. Once you see the light you stop bending over for these idiot companies that force activation, force expensive upgrades, eliminate your product, etc.

Tucows also has an excellent outsourced hosted e-mail service that is very affordable. I actually use that for mail.phatmacs.com. Very slick.

-Ron

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