I did not say the spammers would setup RDNS the ISPs will to avoid problems.


Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Reverse-DNS-Check
> 
> 
> If spammers setup RDNS, then they can be more effectively 
> prosecuted under existing laws, something that's already 
> beginning to happen.
> 
> Bruce Barnes
> ________________________________
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 21:04
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Reverse-DNS-Check
> 
> Then spammer ISP's will setup RDNS for all ip addresses, 
> which most already do!
>  
> Kevin Bilbee
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Matrosity Hosting
>       Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 6:47 PM
>       To: [email protected]
>       Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Reverse-DNS-Check
>       
>       
>       What would happen if everyone refused mail on this test?
>       
>       Bruce Barnes wrote: 
> 
>               While it may not be good as a single test, 
> remember that AOL bounces ALL
>               messages without reverse DNS.
>               
>               When one of our bandwidth providers screwed up 
> our reverse DNS allocation,
>               AOL immediately stopped accepting all e-mail 
> from us because our
>               IN-ADDR.ARPA records were no longer available.  
> Once we got the bandwidth
>               provider to re-allocate our REVERSE DNS, AOL 
> immediately started to accept
>               our messages again.
>               
>               For more information on , see:
>               http://postmaster.aol.com/guidelines/standards.html. 
>               
>               While AOL's connection message, sent to the 
> mail server as mail transmission
>               to AOL is negotiated states: "America Online 
> (AOL) and its affiliated
>               companies do not authorize the use of its 
> proprietary computers and computer
>               networks to accept,  transmit, or distribute unsolicited
> bulk e-mail sent
>               from the internet.  Effective immediately:  AOL may no
> longer accept
>               connections from IP addresses which have no 
> reverse-DNS (PTR
> record)
>               assigned."
>               
>               The link
> http://postmaster.aol.com/guidelines/standards.html, in line 4 of
>               the served page, now clearly states: "AOL's mail servers
> will reject
>               connections from any IP address that does not 
> have reverse DNS (a PTR
>               record)."
>               
>               Considering that one post I saw stated that AOL was
> rejecting something like
>               eight billion messages per day (please don't 
> attack the quoted number as it
>               may or may not be accurate), based on no 
> reverse DNS entry, that pretty much
>               makes it a "de-facto standard"  If they are 
> doing it, then it's going to be
>               pretty hard for others to ignore it.
>               
>               Once we implemented immediate rejection for no 
> reverse DNS entry - two years
>               ago now, we saw our spam drop by almost 50% and 
> have not had one single
>               complaint since doing so.  Remember, too, that 
> for anyone to have a reverse
>               DNS entry also requires allocation of the 
> subnet you are using to the
>               primary domain name of your mail server.  It 
> CAN be done. Sometimes it
>               takes some work, but it CAN be done.  There are several
> posts in the archive
>               about this very issue.
>               
>               Bruce Barnes
>               ChicagoNetTech Inc 
>               
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of John T (Lists)
>               Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 19:33
>               To: [email protected]
>               Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Reverse-DNS-Check
>               
>               It is a good test as part of a weighting system.
>               
>               However, to take action on one test is not so wise.
>               
>               John T
>               eServices For You
>               
>                 
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
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>                       [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
> Schaible
>                       Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:16 PM
>                       To: Ipswitch IMail Mailing List
>                       Subject: [IMail Forum] Reverse-DNS-Check
>                       
>                       Hi,
>                       
>                       We do not use the reverse dns check for a spam
> check. I'm not sure, if 
>                       the
>                           
> 
>               time is
>                 
> 
>                       right to switch it on. In earlier days, 
> this check
> was to dangerous.
>                       
>                       Do you use the reverse dns check?
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