From Mail Filters Website:

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http://mail-filters.com/Products/products_main.htm

Eric S

RMilner wrote:

She is speaking of IMail Premium Content filtering - done through mailfilters.com which they rebrand in their IMail product - and why they speak of outsourcing it. The claim has been made by her and others at IPSwitch and is total False and Deceptive Advertising with nothing to back it up.
I am also speaking of the same with its horrible results.
Interesting enough, I forwarded EVERYTHING to a gmail account.
They had better filtering.

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    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
    *Matrosity Hosting
    *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:55 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help

    pretty sure that may only be true if you were running their Imail
    Secure version of Imail.

    RMilner wrote:

    Considering we see at least 1-2 false positive per 500 emails -
    and roughly 5%-7% of the 500 emails slip through with spam, the
    claim is absolute FALSE AND DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING IN EVERY WAY.

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        *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
        *Kevin Gillis
        *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:11 PM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM

        hi rmilner,
        of course it will take 25+ years at 70 emails a day for 365
        days to really conclusively prove this but... I have not had
        a false positive in 6 months and no longer check my SPAM
        folder - instead opting to just move to the Deleted Items
        folder. The only false positives i've heard of anecdotally
        are e-letters that the first time through (after signing up)
        can look like spam.
        i can share that there are some folks at Ipswitch who no
        longer check their spam folder - spam is marked with a [s] in
        the subject, routed by rules to Spam folder or in some cases
        (me and others), moved directly to the deleted, sight unseen.
        due to compliance reasons, some companies must keep all spam
        and can't just do a straight delete, but for those who don't,
        deleting is fine.
        bye for now,
        kg

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            *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
            *RMilner
            *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:52 AM
            *To:* [email protected]
            *Subject:* RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help on SPAM

            Absolutely bogus figure and false advertising.
            You think you guys would learn about misleading people here.
            /SNIP/
            that's essentially what we did for our (ipswitch)
            corporate solution and we have seen false positives go to
            1 in 500,000. updates occur as frequently as every 10
            minutes (24x7x365) and we just don't have to deal with it
            anymore.

                
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                *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
                Behalf Of *Kevin Gillis
                *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 9:30 AM
                *To:* [email protected]
                *Subject:* RE: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs help
                on SPAM

                Hi Dave and Lim,
                I completely agree. Outsourcing or at least
                implementing as a service where small, but frequent
                incremental updates are delivered to your server in
                near real-time and automatically makes sense given
                the climate for spam (and viruses).
                that's essentially what we did for our (ipswitch)
                corporate solution and we have seen false positives
                go to 1 in 500,000. updates occur as frequently as
                every 10 minutes (24x7x365) and we just don't have to
                deal with it anymore.
                <miniplug> - customers who are running imail secure
                server or ics premium have said that spam has all but
                fallen off the radar as a time consumer - they seem
                to be very happy with it. it catches spam in 30
                languages with human editors also looking at it (one
                in japan, one in england, 2 in US)</mini plug>
                bye for now,
                kg

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                    *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    Behalf Of *Dave Doherty
                    *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:27 PM
                    *To:* [email protected]
                    *Subject:* Re: [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs
                    help on SPAM

                    Hi, Lim-
                    If you have no tech support people, you probably
                    should outsource spam control. It's pretty much
                    hands-on to do it right.
                    Having said that, there are some gateway
                    products, and Declude interfaces directly into
                    IMail. Declude has gotten pretty expensive for
                    new users, though.
                    -Dave Doherty
                    Skywaves, Inc.

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                        *From:* Lim Siew Yin
                        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
                        *To:* [email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:14 PM
                        *Subject:* [10] [IMail Forum] Newbie needs
                        help on SPAM

                        Hi ppl,
                        We're still using IMAIL 7.5 and I need help
                        in getting an affordable yet reliable SPAM
                        filter... (I hope there is such a thing).
                        Since we have 0 Tech support personnel.... I
                        am hoping for a user-friendly solution.
                        I know IMAIL has some sort of built-in SPAM
                        filter... but that works by manually
                        maintaining a filter LIST .. is that so?
                        (I am guessing here)
                        Again... we have 0 Tech support ppl.... so
                        noone is gonna maintain the list... which is
                        why I am hoping there is a solution
                        where by it retrieves/updates the filter list
                        automatically.. something like an anti-virus
                        program. Is this how SPAM filters
                        works? Or does it always need a tech guy/gal
                        to maintain it?
                        We are a small company... we dont have a lot
                        of emails (less than 1000 emails per day -
                        70% of them SPAM...)
                        Sorry if my question is too noob... I don't
                        have much tech resources to turn to. Any
                        help/info is greatly appreciated.
                        Thank you for your time.
                        Lim.



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