OK.

Your backup (cache) server needs to be able to identify acceptable addresses, receive messages for those addresses, and route the messages to the mailbox server.

So your backup needs to think that it is in charge of the mail for nnepa.com. The challenge is that it has to route the messages to the server that REALLY is in charge of nnepa.com, which will not happen if the backup thinks it is in charge of the domain.

So you need to make the mailbox server aware that it is also in charge of mail for another domain, mail.nnepa.com; and you have to set up the backup so that any incoming mail it accepts for nnepa.com is routed out to mail.nnepa.com.

Sounds convoluted, but once you get it, it's pretty straightforward.

The domain alias on the mailbox server is easy. Open up the administrator, double click the domain, and enter mail.nnepa.com in the domain aliases text field.

There are at least two ways get your backup server to handle its part of the deal.

Is LDAP running on your mailbox server? If so, there is handly utility written by Sandy Whiteman called LDAP2ALIASES that runs on the backup. It queries the LDAP server on your mailbox machine and creates aliases on your backup for all the users, lists, and aliases. The biggest piece of work may be adding the domain aliases. Each domain on the mailbox server must accept mail for mail.domainname.com as well as domain.com.

www.imprimia.com/ browser.asp?visipath=%5Cproducts%5Csoftware%5Cfreeutils%5Cldap2aliases

For my part, because I had trouble with LDAP, I wrote a set of utilities that periodically export the registry data from the mailbox server, modify it, upload that data into the registry on the backup, and update the HOSTS file on the backup. It works for me, but messing with registry data is not for the faint of heart. If the LDAP approach works for you, you should try that first.

-Dave










----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size


Yes

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size

OK, you need to train it so it only accepts inbound mail for valid
addresses. Are both of the servers Imail boxes?



----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size


Thanks Dave.  It's a backup mail server, so I will look and see if there
are
other things that might be causing this.

Todd

(a newbie who is tired of taking baby steps - I want to run!!!)



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size

I use a VBS script that calls a zipper utiliity. It's really easyonce you
have the utility. he one I use is ancient and hasn't been supported for
years.  But there's lots of shareware out there and maybe even some
freeware.

Is this a mailbox server or a gateway?

If you have that many files building up on a mailbox server, then I
suspect
you have a bounce rule on a domain that is under attack. Check your
message
rules to see if somebody has a nobody alias and a rule that bounces
anything

that doesn't match a name or two.

If you have that many files on a gateway, then the gateway is accepting
mail

that is unacceptable to the mailbox server. The best way to fix this is to
export the acceptable addresses from your mailbox server to your gateway
and

set up the gateway to accept mail only for those addresses. he the gateway
can issue 550 errors instead of bounce messages. It will save a lot on
bandwidth also.

-d





----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size


Thanks Dave.  I set up the isplcln utility just a little bit ago.
However,
a lot of those .gse files were from today! So even if I had it set up on
a
daily basis, there are still several thousand postmaster messages in
there
from today that wouldn't get deleted until tomorrow.  If that's not a
problem then I'm set.

Do you just archive your log files manually, or do you have a script that
you use?

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size

You can download the Imail spool cleaner utility from their website.
Call
it nightly as follows:

isplcln -n 1 -l 5

-n refers to the age of the files to delete. This applies to all but log
files.
-l refers to the age of the log files to delete.

In both cases, the number says how old they fiels should be days.

So my command line deletes all surplus files over one day old, and all
log
fuiles over 5 days old.  I zip my log files and place them in an archive
directory anyway, so the log part is pretty much immaterial on my system.

-d

----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Spool size


Going through the spool folder I found that there were 22,000 ".gse"
files
(which I see are generated by the postmaster).  I looked at several of
them
and they were basically bounces from email addresses that didn't exist.
Is
there a reason to keep these (my gut says no).  Also, Darin mentioned
that

I
can clean up files orphaned D* files without a matching Q file.  Is
there
an
easy way to go through and do this without me having to look through
them
all?

Thanks again,

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Spool size

Yes, this indicates a problem.  We run about 125-150K messages a day
(96-98%) filtered out by Declude, but in general we only have approx 300
or
so files in the spool.  I have my QueueMon settings to alert us when it
gets

over 500.

You need to start looking at those files and figure out what is wrong.

Darrell
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Spool size


How many files are too many in the spool?  Our backup mail server's
spool
seems to grow by the day, and is currently at 56K files.  The file
types
vary, but does this suggest a problem somewhere?

Thanks,

Todd


______________________________________________
Todd Richards
National Network, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
402.778.7903




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