I think the best option is to apply rules to forwarded email but not forwarding messages marked as spam would be fine to.


Tripp Allen wrote:
That's just the way the system was designed; inbound rules only apply to messages as they are being delivered to a mailbox.  Since a forward is not locally delivered, the rules are never called.  It would be a nice option to apply rules even if there is a forward file, but then we need to decide which would take precedence.  Another option could be to not forward messages marked as spam.
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

I appreciate that, really. I don't understand how forwards ignore rules but I guess it wasn't brought up before. We have many clients that forward business email to AOL which we much prevent due to AOL's policy. It would also be greatly beneficial for us to also retain messages we believe are spam rather than pay for the bandwidth to send them somewhere else. We're already paying to receive that crap so paying more to send it off to verizon or earthlink kinda sucks.

Tripp Allen wrote:
I agree that's a lot of extra work, but applying rules after a forward is a feature that we don't currently support.  Just looking for alternatives to give you what you need for now.
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

setup a rule for each user??

This is a BIG problem and getting bigger as we take on more customers. I don't think this is going to be solved by creating rules on an individual basis for very long.

Tripp Allen wrote:
How about setting up a rule forward for those users to forward anything to their forward address unless it has the spam header?
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

I would have to sift through thousands of emails. I'm trying to create less work not more.

:)

The correct solution is to fix Imail so that one or the other functions.

Tripp Allen wrote:
Not so far.  How about putting the spam in one account rather than back in the account that mail is being forwarded from?
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

any ideas??

Tripp Allen wrote:
Inbound rules are applied to messages as they are delivered to a mailbox.  When a user sets a forward the messages are not delivered so the rules aren't applied. 
 
My understanding is your users are setting a forward for all of their mail to another account (AOL for example) and never checking their mail locally; is this correct?  If you are sure the message is spam, have you considered setting the spam action to delete?
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

yes, this was a result having rules that are ignored when forwards are in place.

Tripp Allen wrote:
So if someone is forwarding mail to a remote domain that contains a spam header you want it to be delivered to a specific mailbox for the sender?  I'm drawing a blank on how to configure that.  I'll think on this for awhile.
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

not a different account but the one it was to be forwarded from.


Tripp Allen wrote:
Yes, you can use an outbound rule to forward the message to a different account.
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

ok, great. So if we create the rule which says to move the mail to say 'spam' it will end up in the correct email account?

Tripp Allen wrote:
The rules are loaded based on the IPed host domain that is sending the mail.  Create the outbound rule for the IPed domain that belongs to the ip sending the mail (probably the primary host).
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

Kevin gave me a workaround for a problem we have with forwards to AOL which involved setting an outbound rule. Since we can't give every domain on our server an IP to do this we're kinda stuck.

The problem is that rules won't apply to forwarded email so an outbound rule must be added. Now, we can't do an outbound rule since they don't exist on virtuals.

One of these options needs to be corrected somehow???

Tripp Allen wrote:
I believe there was a defect in IAdmin in 8.X versions that showed the outbound rules tab for virtual domains, but they don't work that way.  Outbound rules only work for IP domains.
 
Tripp
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] outbound rules gone from 2006?

I only see outbound rules on domains with an IP. This used to be a feature for virtuals wasn't it??


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