RE: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?

[Rick Hogue]

With Microsoft, you are not paying an annual service agreement over and above the purchase price. In this instance Windows 95 is not a good example nor would Windows 2000 as they both are much older products than version 8.x of IMail. Also, if those companies who had the keys had service agreements with their clients then yes they should be required to produce software to alleviate the need for the parallel port.  I may be mistaken but I seem to recall some court cases against Microsoft that ended up requiring them to support software up to 4 years from its creation and to maintain patches for the software for a 4 year period from the time of the following upgrade. But then again I could be mistaken. The problem with the version 8.x Imail server also effects version 2006. 2006 is a massive rewrite with minor changes made to certain parts of the code. I think Ipswitch got caught with two generations of the product having problems and is not capable of handling two different rewrites for patches. I do hope that Ipswitch decides to reverse their decision to not support version 8.x and supplies the fix for the smtp vulnerability to SA holders as that is part of what we are and have been paying for so many years. This non-support stance has been evident with Ipswitch management several times before this and has lost them a large portion of the market to competing products. This move could loose them the balance of their loyal base or cause a class action to be taken against them. I hope that does not happen.   Rick Hogue Intent.Net   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 2:01 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?   So if a vulnerability is discovered in Windows 95, Microsoft should spend the time and resources developing a patch to fix it?   What about all those software vendors that were using old style parallel port keys that became obsolete when Windows XP came out? Should those software vendors have been forced to provide entirely new versions of software and keys that were working perfectly fine under DOS 6.22 or Windows 3.1 for free?   John T eServices For You   "Seek, and ye shall find!"   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim F. Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:45 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA?   >> The answer is obvious, time to drop Imail. <<   The only problem is that the alternatives aren't exactly that great.  SmarterMail looks like a great product, but it's still lacking some of the fundamental elements of a corporate mail server like TLS.  They also remind me now of how IPswitch was 5 or 6 years ago.  I'm afraid that if I jump ship to SM, in a few years they'll start going down the same over-priced, feature-bloated, performance-lacking, unstability-ridden road that Ipswitch (and Declude) did.  I've looked at the other alternative products and none are really that viable IMO.   I would love it if there were a full featured Open Source mail server.  Not that I am looking to save money - I'd just like to be able to use a product that is driven by functionality instead of the bean counters.   FWIW, I didn't renew my IMail service agreement that expired a month or two ago.  I'm not sure what I'm holding out for, but I don't want to feel like I'm being robbed by paying Ipswitch to use their product.  That said, I'm not using a version with a vulnerability in it, but that shouldn't matter.  If a vulnerability is discovered in any version of a piece of software, the vendor should provide a patch regardless of SA status.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyran Ormond Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:17 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA? On 05:41 PM 10/23/2006 -0400, it would appear that Mike N wrote: Now that there's been an SMTP exploit released (yesterday) for the recently patched SMTP bug, you are running on borrowed time until someone decides to try it on your server. Stay with possibly exploitable version of the server or upgrade to a feature and bug rich version that doesn't have the exploit?  The answer is obvious, time to drop Imail.  It's been a long run (7 years) but the handwriting is clearly on the wall. ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy D. Hilton Subject: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA? Weve been running Imail 7.15 for a few years now and its been running very well. Well, its time to renew my SA with Ipswitch but Im wondering is it worth it?   In following this list I see that the latest versions of Imail have been far from stellar, so Im know I will not be upgrading to 2006.x anytime soon. I think Ive seen that 8.22 is pretty stable but is it worth the upgrade from a 7.15 thats old but stable, to a 8.22? Is it worth it for me to spend the money for an SA for Imail?   Opinions?   Tyran Ormond Programmer/LAN Administrator Central Valley Water Reclamation Facility [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/494 - Release Date: 10/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/494 - Release Date: 10/24/2006