Not at all. I just think it's excessive to pay $240 for the chassis, and another $240 each for the two built-in interfaces. $240 to certify the pix and two built-in interfaces I can understand, but $760 seems a bit excessive for maybe an hour or two to run a base Pix through some automated tools. The certification process would determine the condition of the unit, and therefore whether or not you can get a support contract for it.
If you add a 1-port card it's another $240 to certify it. If you add a 4-port interface card, you have to put out another grand to certify just a 4-port NIC. Of course you're going to rip it out before Cisco looks at it to avoid the cost, since those are cheap and easy to replace. I don't see why IOS would not be transferable. It was bought and paid for, just like the hardware. Note that there is a separate cost to upgrade the IOS, so that should cover any ongoing development costs for new IOS images. I certainly wouldn't expect them to send a new unit if it was indeed damaged. Perhaps what would be good is an intermediate contract that does not warrantee the hardware, but allows you to download firmware updates and get support for them. That's all we wanted anyway. As it is, it's much cheaper to buy multiple used units with the desired firmware than to get a support contract with Cisco. Darin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? I personally don't think having to pay a recertification cost is not unrealistic. If you bought a fried pix off ebay do you really think its fair to pay $240 for a support contract and have them send you a replacement unit? Not to mention in most cases you are paying for relicensing the IOS since that is a non-transferable item. Darrell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? But not a 515. Used was a _lot_ cheaper for a Pix with the latest firmware at the time. About 1/3 Darin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? So why not just buy a new PIX? You can get a 501 for less than that. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? Not if you buy used hardware, though. For example, in order to purchase a support contract for a Pix to get firmware upgrades, the Pix has to be certified, at a cost of $240 for the chassis, and $240 per interface card. So assuming you take out any additional interface cards, leaving only the 2 internal interfaces, you still have $720 for certification, plus $240 for the support contract. Darin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matrosity Hosting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? Yes, and it's cheap. $240 per year. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? The only time we needed Cisco support, we got it. Darin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Checca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: It is worth it to buy the SA? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Traylor Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] It is worth it to buy the SA? Why would you say that? A comment on Cisco's support? Doug Traylor Yes ... Cisco makes IPSwitch look like grandma with cookies. 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