No problems here... running v5.09, with multiple domains, multiple "nobody"
aliases, and the internal IMail DB. We've had all sorts of problems with
all sorts of Windows NT apps, but IMail is about as rock-solid as they get.
Now, I've never worked with this FtGate product. However, if an IMail
system has "no real users," as described in the messages below, then you
have "no real mailboxes," and it seems obvious that users won't be able to
mail each other. After all, according to this setup, the users don't really
exist... and how can they communicate if they don't exist?
Can someone explain the logic of setting up a domain without at least one
user? I've seen this in forwarding situations (like pointing a .net and
.org domain to the .com), but in situations where users need to send and
receive mail from that specific domain, how can this be logical?
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but this seems like a flaw within the
IMail setup, and not within IMail itself.
There's my 2 cents... don't spend it all in one place. :-)
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http://www.teralynx.net
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on 2/6/00 7:45 AM, Don Schreiner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't post here much, but wanted to let you know that we host multiple
> IMail domains on 1 machine and they mail back and forth just fine. We do
> however use MSSQL7.0 and not the built-in IMail database. Perhaps this is
> why? Anyone care to comment. I am curious if anyone else is having same
> problem as "Luk" here.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Don Schreiner
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luk Van de
> Heyning
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 9:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Npore about the "nobody" thing...
>
>
> About the "nobody" - alias and the way it (doens't) work...
>
> See below the ----------- what someone in the list wrote.
>
> It's getting cler to me that indeed nobody understands the importance of it
> in a setup as we (and others) use.
>
> To keep it short: when using the nobody-alias there are no "real users"
> made on the Imail-system.
>
> Everything for a domain goes into one mailbox. This is read remotely by
> things as FtGate. So far so well.
>
> But here is the important stuff:
>
> We have several somains setup this way. Some domains belong to the same
> group of people. They want to be able to mail each-other !!!! But NO, they
> are not in the same domain, NO they are not in the same location.
>
> So: they send mail out (SMTP), it get's to OUR Imail-server, wich does not
> know the user and puts the mail in the nobody-alias... you would think.
>
> NO, it doesn't when the mail originates from a domain within the same
> Imail-server !!! Becayse then the nobody-trick is not used and Imail tries
> to dliver to the right user, wich does not exist, and rejects the mail with
> a 'user non local".
>
> I hope everyone gets the point: as long the domains are "way apart" this
> nobody-thingy works. But as soon the domains are on the same Imail-server,
> it doesn't work.
>
> Also imagine this: WE ourselves can NOT mail our customers on our
> Imail-server. Becuase... the user-names do not exist and everything for
> their domain SHOULD go into one mailbox. But it doesn't when "Imail only"
> is concerned. It DOES when mail comes from domains OUTSIDE our server.
>
> So, the more domains we set up, the more poeple can NOT mail each other...
>
> Unless I make aliases (pointing to the same mailbox) for every user our
> customers create on theur (remote) FtGate - system.
>
> It wonders me why nobody seems to get the point here... Not such a
> "demanding" setup IMHO. Just using things as they are supposed to work, no ?
>
> --------------------------------------------->
>
>
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Some thouhts about Imail (and tech. sup... :-)
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I don't understand this nobody thing: "-multiple domains and the
> 'nobody-alias': when hosting multiple domains,
> when using the nobody-alias (and NO 'real users') then users can NOT mail
> each-other between domains on the same Imail-system (non local user). So
> Imail is not "real multi-domain" ! Or... the 'nobody-alias' - system should
> be rebuild / retought from ground zero. (Because stuff as the CC - trouble
> is also related to the 'nobody' -trick."
>
> Doesn't this require there be another mail server on the other end (is that
> what FTgate is, or does FTgate just feed the mail to a real mail server)?
> Why can't the users on the remote system use their local email server rather
> than IMail? And if there isn't a real mail server on the other end of this
> gateway, then isn't this really a mickey-mouse arrangement bastardizing the
> use of the "nobody" alias in a way for which it was not designed?
>
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