Hi,

SmarterMail ist available in german. The german strings where translated by
the community and customers. Usually i had to fix some typos and some
strange phrases ;-)
The support is english spoken, but we will create a german support community
in july/august based on communityserver (www.communityserver.org).   



Mit freundlichen Grüssen

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Merlin Consulting | Martin Schaible
Bahnhofstrasse 27 | CH-8702 Zollikon | Switzerland
Tel.: +41 44 391 30 00 | Fax: +41 44 391 32 49
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Support: support.merlinconsulting.ch
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Rainer Noa
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2007 08:03
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: AW: [IMail Forum] Grey Listing
> 
> Hello Martin, is SmarterMail available in German version with German
> support? 
> See the website, looks good!
> The pricing is Ok to.
> Perhaps you will contact me!
> 
> Best regards :)
> --
> i.A. Rainer Noa
> Projektmanager
> 
> MilesTec AG
> Prager Ring 2
> 66482 Zweibrücken
> 
> Fon: (06332) 479 00 30
> Fax: (01212) 518 21 06 71
> Mobil: (0171) 742 18 56
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von 
> Martin Schaible
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2007 00:18
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: AW: [IMail Forum] Grey Listing
> 
> Hi to all,
> 
> I agree with all responses from you. Maybe i have to explain 
> my situation a
> bit more. I learned, that market for mail servers is in 
> general full up, at
> least in our small country. I sold my last Imail license 6 
> Month ago. We're
> looking for a solution to move forward to our very loyal 
> customer base.
> Mostly all of them have now mxGuard and MessageSniffer. All 
> customers are in
> small and medium region, the average user count per server 
> might around 100
> to 150. Some customers are ISP's like our hosting company, 
> having around
> 2000 accounts. No question, that small companies are not in 
> the mood to have
> an second server using ASSP or others. A second box makes 
> really sense for
> high volume mail servers. 
> 
> We also realized, that the development process at Ipswitch 
> takes a lot of
> time, kinda "slow motion development". I think, the resources are very
> limited at Ipswitch. Since a year, we have Imail 2006 and 
> they spent the
> whole year to get rid of the bugs from the new WebMail and 
> WebAdmin. That's
> it.
> Customers are asking, why the have to renew the subscription. 
> It looks like,
> that they are expecting more.
> 
> More and more the customers are also asking for groupware 
> functionalities
> like Imail premium offers partially. This is now the point, which my
> favorite software enters the stage: SmarterMail. This piece 
> of Software runs
> really perfectly and the guys at SmarterTools are investing a lot of
> manpower to develop the product further on. SmarterMail uses 
> SpamAsassin to
> fight against spam, which is ok for most all cases. The groupware
> functionality is awesome and the WebMail looks really nice. 
> 
> The only drawback is, that mxGuard and all optional filters are not
> available for SmarterMail. This would be the "dreamteam" for 
> us and our
> (small/medium) customers: SmarterMail and mxGuard with MessageSniffer.
> Especially for customers, which already have such licenses.
> 
> We have to find a decision until July, which way we want to 
> go. It looks bad
> for Imail.
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> 
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> Merlin Consulting | Martin Schaible
> Bahnhofstrasse 27 | CH-8702 Zollikon | Switzerland
> Tel.: +41 44 391 30 00 | Fax: +41 44 391 32 49
> Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.merlinconsulting.ch
> Support: support.merlinconsulting.ch
> GPS: N47 20.235 E8 34.226
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> News - Unsere Produkte:
> .:. Ipswitch Premium Partner
> .:. mxGuard/InvURIBL/MessageSniffer Antispam Lösung für IMail
> .:. Brainware Columbus Software Management
> .:. delight software GmbH
> .:. NewAtlanta BlueDragon
> .:. JMuffin CMS
> .:. NOD32 Antivirus System
> .:. Kiwi Syslog Monitor
> .:. Lockstep Systems - Backup Software
> .:. Paessler Network Monitoring
> .:. SmarterTools
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>  
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von 
> > Andy Schmidt
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2007 15:39
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: RE: [IMail Forum] Grey Listing
> > 
> > Hi Martin:
> > 
> > Don't get your hopes up. IMail is a great "application" (e.g., their
> > back-end), but on the systems end (dealing with the SMTP 
> > protocol), they've
> > never been able to catch up with real-life demands. It's 
> > possible that they
> > just don't have any strong talent in that area.
> > 
> > Most of their anti-spam implementation is of little value, 
> > because it forces
> > us to first ACCEPT a mail and THEN (if we were to follow 
> RFCs) notify
> > apparent senders of our non-delivery. That was fine 10 or 15 
> > years ago, when
> > this was once conceived. But given the realities of 2007 (and 
> > the several
> > prior years), 99% of the apparent senders are non-existing 
> accounts or
> > joe-jobs who would end up being spammed by us. If we simply "delete"
> > messages, then you run the risk of deleting or blocking 
> > legitimate messages
> > WITHOUT giving the sender (and the recipient) the required 
> > (and absolutely
> > necessary) notification that "something's wrong with your message".
> > 
> > The obvious solution has always been to REFUSE the acceptance 
> > of mail as
> > early as possible - meaning, during the actual SMTP 
> connection. If one
> > chooses to block mail based on failed SPF, missing RevDNS 
> > (whether you agree
> > with that or not), faked HELO strings or even certain 
> > internal or public IP
> > or domain black-lists, then this should be done during the 
> > connection - not
> > after the "ship has sailed". This way, the sending mail 
> > server would receive
> > a proper error-return and IT will be responsible of notifying 
> > its OWN users
> > (if indeed there was a legitimate user involved).
> > 
> > The same holds true of the ability to "fortify" certain 
> > accounts (such as
> > abuse@, postmaster@,...). We should be able to set up 
> > "policies" where any
> > mail directed to these accounts is not permitted to have more 
> > than xxx other
> > recipients (possibly as little as 1).
> > 
> > Moving on to SURBL and other content checking (even virus 
> > checking). Some
> > could be performed before confirming the receipt of the DATA 
> > command and
> > still refused at that time. While connection dropping at that 
> > point is not
> > an option offered by the RFC, it is now a very common and 
> > thus justifiable
> > practice.
> > 
> > All of these things are trivial to implement - yet, they never get
> > accomplished.  Consequently, I can't imagine them having 
> the necessary
> > expertise to implement more sophisticated schemes, such as 
> > grey-listing.
> > 
> > Your solution is to use Imail as the great back-end 
> > "application software"
> > that it is, but to front-end it with more current technology 
> > by more capable
> > "systems" vendors. For small users, Imail might work out of 
> > the box, but for
> > more "exposed" mail domains, Imail is not a serious 
> contender for spam
> > control and appears to have no ambitions in that direction.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:44 PM
> > Subject: AW: [IMail Forum] Grey Listing
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I expected a short statement from ipswitch. So, is a native 
> > greylisting
> > somewhere on the horizon, or do we have to wait another year?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> > 
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