Nope. That's our internal Exchange server for the City and the Board of
Public Utilities. We have a separate server for the ISP that handles the
ISP mail and all virtual servers.

We're a municipally held ISP.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

 

Since it's also my primary domain that is also gray listed I don't think
that's the solution.  If this is your primary domain, muni.cbpu.com, it
doesn't have a cname record either.


At 07:35 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote:



I currently host about 70 virtual domains and all can send to Yahoo.
None of them have their own IP, but all of them are cnamed in my dns to
my actual mail server. Don't know if this info can help you resolve the
issue. That's just how I'm doing it.
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces
 
That's a great idea!  Where do I sign up?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: John T (lists) <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:10 AM

Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

 

Actually, I think we should all demand an IP address for each mail
domain on our servers from ICANNA and explain that the reason is Yahoo
wants each domain that it receives email from to have its very own
dedicated IP address.

 

Let's see how fast Yahoo changes their song.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:36 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

 

That's a ridiculous position for Yahoo to take.

 

I have about 300 mail domains. I'm supposed to burn 300 IPs on my mail
server? 

 

Sheer insanity.

 

-Dave Doherty

 Skywaves, Inc.

 97 Webster Street

 Worcester, MA 01603

 508-425-7176

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Imail <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

 

I found this response on a forum someplace about the same problem.
Yahoo apparently responded.  I do not know if this is accurate or not
but I do know that those clients of ours that have their own IP are not
having problems, yet.  I have read of individual companies having the
same problem using Exchange but cannot verify their email configurations
to tell why.



"Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

We cannot systematically exempt your mailings from our SpamGuard
technology since the IP address of the server appears to be a shared
domain mail host and have multiple clients sending email. We will
maintain the current information in our database as it is configured. 

This allows delivery of your mailings to oscillate between the Inbox and
the Bulk Mail folder as Yahoo! users choose.

Please keep in mind that our SpamGuard technology will continually
monitor user feedback pertaining to emails coming from your mail
server(s), and as such, the user feedback we receive will be one of the
factors that influence where your emails are most appropriately
delivered. Our studies have indicated that when users see messages
incorrectly categorized, they notify us within hours of delivery. 

We do recommend that if you maintain several clients or company lists
(especially for an ISP/ASP/ESP) to segregate your clients to different
IP addresses. This ensures that users are marking each company on its
own merits. User notifications to us may become hazy should they see
both spam and legitimate mail from the same IP. In cases like these, the
end result will likely be that spam will override the legitimate mail.

If you implement significant changes to your mailing practices, feel
free to contact us again. You may refer to the Help page below for some
information and general guidelines that we have found to be effective in
maintaining good mailing lists:"






At 09:21 PM 5/20/2007, you wrote:

Sounds like Yahoo is graylisting.

-Dave Doherty

 Skywaves, Inc.

 97 Webster Street

 Worcester, MA 01603

 508-425-7176

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Krishna <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

I had the same problem few months back, Yahoo server treats all emails
as spam and rejects the emails however if the same email is being resent
then it goes through so make sure in your email server you set to re-try
for 20 to 30 times.

  

After i did this all yahoo emails are going trhough.

  

Regards

Krishna

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jeff Hitchcock <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:33 PM

Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

Seeing the same thing. Endless problems with Yahoo.

  

Their "tech support" has been less than helpful.

Jeff Hitchcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:25 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

I've been getting this from email going to Yahoo accounts for the last 3
weeks or so.

421 Message from (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50.
Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html

Some of the email that's going to them ends up in the Bulk folder and
some just doesn't make it at all.

I get this from dnsreport.com

Mail

FAIL

Connect to mail servers

ERROR: I could not complete a connection to one or more of your
mailservers:

ERROR: c.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please
refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

ERROR: f.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please
refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

ERROR: g.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please
refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

ERROR: b.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please
refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

c.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com
]

f.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com
]

g.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com
]

b.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com
]

 

I've tried emailing their support folks and get the standard automated
response about getting back to me within 48 hours.  Of course, they
haven't responded yet.

Any ideas?

Mark 

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