Actually, I think we should all demand an IP address for each mail domain on
our servers from ICANNA and explain that the reason is Yahoo wants each
domain that it receives email from to have its very own dedicated IP
address.

 

Let's see how fast Yahoo changes their song.

 

John T

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

 

That's a ridiculous position for Yahoo to take.

 

I have about 300 mail domains. I'm supposed to burn 300 IPs on my mail
server? 

 

Sheer insanity.

 

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Imail <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

 

I found this response on a forum someplace about the same problem.  Yahoo
apparently responded.  I do not know if this is accurate or not but I do
know that those clients of ours that have their own IP are not having
problems, yet.  I have read of individual companies having the same problem
using Exchange but cannot verify their email configurations to tell why.


"Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

We cannot systematically exempt your mailings from our SpamGuard technology
since the IP address of the server appears to be a shared domain mail host
and have multiple clients sending email. We will maintain the current
information in our database as it is configured. 

This allows delivery of your mailings to oscillate between the Inbox and the
Bulk Mail folder as Yahoo! users choose.

Please keep in mind that our SpamGuard technology will continually monitor
user feedback pertaining to emails coming from your mail server(s), and as
such, the user feedback we receive will be one of the factors that influence
where your emails are most appropriately delivered. Our studies have
indicated that when users see messages incorrectly categorized, they notify
us within hours of delivery. 

We do recommend that if you maintain several clients or company lists
(especially for an ISP/ASP/ESP) to segregate your clients to different IP
addresses. This ensures that users are marking each company on its own
merits. User notifications to us may become hazy should they see both spam
and legitimate mail from the same IP. In cases like these, the end result
will likely be that spam will override the legitimate mail.

If you implement significant changes to your mailing practices, feel free to
contact us again. You may refer to the Help page below for some information
and general guidelines that we have found to be effective in maintaining
good mailing lists:"





At 09:21 PM 5/20/2007, you wrote:



Sounds like Yahoo is graylisting.

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176
 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Krishna <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:52 PM

Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

I had the same problem few months back, Yahoo server treats all emails as
spam and rejects the emails however if the same email is being resent then
it goes through so make sure in your email server you set to re-try for 20
to 30 times.


  

After i did this all yahoo emails are going trhough.


  

Regards

Krishna

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jeff Hitchcock <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:33 PM

Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

Seeing the same thing. Endless problems with Yahoo.


  

Their "tech support" has been less than helpful.

Jeff Hitchcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  _____  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:25 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces

I've been getting this from email going to Yahoo accounts for the last 3
weeks or so.

421 Message from (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please
refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html

Some of the email that's going to them ends up in the Bulk folder and some
just doesn't make it at all.

I get this from dnsreport.com




Mail

FAIL

Connect to mail servers

ERROR: I could not complete a connection to one or more of your mailservers:

ERROR: c.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 Message
from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

ERROR: f.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 Message
from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

ERROR: g.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 Message
from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

ERROR: b.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 Message
from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

c.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com ]

f.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com ]

g.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com ]

b.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO test.DNSreport.com ]





I've tried emailing their support folks and get the standard automated
response about getting back to me within 48 hours.  Of course, they haven't
responded yet.

Any ideas?

Mark 

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