It takes no time at all to copy mailbox. The drives are local to the imail
machine (72 gigs made up of 10,000 rpm scsi's in raid 5 config) on a dell
powerserver with dual 600 mhz p3 cpus and 512 megs of ram. I seriously doubt
that the hardware or network config is an issue at all (win 2000 server).
Everything else is lightning fast.

The sql server is even on a separate machine altogether, so all imail has to
do is provide the web interface and process mail.

SOme mail boxes ARE large and do have MANY attachmnts, and they are the slow
ones.  I can live with that, I guess. At least the issue is specific to a
situation.

Also, thanks for the custom message suggestion. I will try that. One final
quesion....


??????Often when users hit the back button, the browser says unable to bla
bla, must refresh screen.  Sometimes the refresh works, sometimes you get
bounced right out of the system.  Most of the time however, it does not
require the refresh. Do you know what causes this and is there a browser
settig or something that can get rid of it??

Thanks Again

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> maybe 1 or 2 are using the system at any pint in time (max).  Deletes
> seem to take forever. When move to deleted folder is used there is a
> 30 second delay.  This makes it pretty unuseable.

That means that there is something wrong with your system, most likely.
Either that or people have lots of huge attachments.  You aren't using
network drives to store your mailboxes on, are you?  Is there a noticeable
delay (several seconds or more) when deleting mail from a mailbox with only
a few E-mails in it without attachments?

I'd recommend going to your directory on IMail (C:\IMail\users\youraccount),
or to the directory of someone who is having this problem, and copy the
main.mbx file to main.bak.  See how long that takes.  If that takes 30
seconds, you can be sure that there is a file system problem outside of
IMail.

> Often, when a delete is attempted, I get the "message order has
> changed" message. I assume this means new mail has arrived.  With
> active email, this message shows up all the time (every 3rd time I
> try to delete messages.)

This is one of the drawbacks about IMail's web messaging.  For some reason,
they refer to messages based on their current position in the mailbox, so if
you get a new E-mail or delete an E-mail, you will have to refresh your
screen in order to read a message, for example.  It's worse on our system,
where you can have several E-mails open at the same time.

> This is also very frustrating. What can be done about this.  I
> hate to make the analogy, but HOTMAIL is the standard against
> which Imail will be judged and these above two issues do NOT
> occur with hotmail.

FYI, I had one of the heads of a large multinational corporation say "This
blows away Hotmail" when looking at our IMail web messaging (the templates
are highly modified, though).

> What can I do to stop them?  Both appear to be "errors" to endusers,
> and I don't want my endusers to see them.

The first is a true problem that needs to be fixed.  If you have 1 or 2
users online at once, it shouldn't take that long to delete a message.  It
typically takes a second or two here, and that's with SSL overhead, so it's
no more than just going to a different web page.

For the second problem, which for us usually only appears when someone has
received a new E-mail, we changed the message to say "You have new mail!".
That way, it appears to be a feature to endusers, rather than an error.  <G>
                              -Scott
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