Thank you! :-}
That's the answer I'd been looking for.
John Cesta
John,
I have had people who were changing the IP (the one for the NIC) actually
have both the old and new IP and configured the new IP to use the same OHN,
Alias, Top Dir and all other data on the Host Configuration screen, to make
IMail able to use both. Once the change over was complete (and TTLs
expired), they just removed the old IP from the registry (and the TCPIP
settings) and all worked well. They changed the IP on the IP tab and added
the old IP to the Advanced settings. The IP in the IP tab is the one that is
most significant to IMail and your system. That is the one I would change,
since you are really changing the IP of the system, not just IMail.
Yes, you _do_ use a HOSTS file and that has nothing to do with what DNS you
use (and I use BIND, too!). NT _will_ check the HOSTS file, before
performing a DNS request (MS says so!). So, what I said is true for you,
too. When you first install TCPIP, NT will update the HOSTS file, and when
you change the IP/host/domain names, it is very likely it will _not_ update
it (about 1 in 10 chance it will, from my experience). That will mean that
the 'hostname' for the computer will return the Old IP (from HOSTS, not
DNS!), if you do not fix the HOSTS file. I cannot tell you how many people
believe the same as you and how many of them I have helped by editing their
HOSTS file. That is why I bring this issue up so often,!!!
Besides, it is so simple to 'fix' that it is not worth taking the chance of
not fixing it! And it reduces the load on your DNS, if each host does not
need to check DNS for its own hostname. And finally, if DNS does go down, at
least the system can resolve itself.
Daniel Donnelly
Ipswitch Technical Support
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----- Original Message -----
From: "LISTS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Changing IP#
> Thanks Daniel,
>
> We host our own servers. We are only needing to change our imail host IP.
>
> Currently, our imail host IP is the one in the NIC adapter, not one in the
> Advanced area. the question was,
>
> "Does it need to be the IP in the NIC adapter, as opposed to one in the
> Advanced area?"
>
> It is much easier for us to schedule the changeover if we can leave the
IP
> in the NIC adapter alone and simply change imail to match one in the
> Advanced properties.
>
> Also, We don't use the HOSTS file. Never have, never had a problem with
any
> thing on our box. Maybe NT DNS uses this but our BIND doesn't
>
> John Cesta
>
> http://www.cybersmarts.net
> -------------------------------------------------
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Changing IP#
>
>
> No, as Len said, but the Primary IP, the one on the IP tab (NT4.0), is
most
> important to your system and IMail. If you change that (which you might,
if
> you had a new ISP), you should also make sure the
> \winnt\system32\drivers\etc\HOSTS file is updated and correct (NT does not
> reliably do this for you!) or you will have name resolution problems.
>
> Daniel Donnelly
> Ipswitch Technical Support
> ________________________________________________________
> See our Knowledge Base at http://support.ipswitch.com/kb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LISTS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Changing IP#
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please see:
> >
> > http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19991007-DM02.htm
> > IMail - How to change the IP address
> >
> > In this article, it says:
> >
> > "If you have not done so, bind the new IP address to the NIC card in
> Control
> > Panel | Network | TCP/IP | Properties."
> >
> > this is my quesion actually: Does this mean Imail will only see the IP
> that
> > is bound to the NIC card or does it also see the IPs in the Advanced
> section
> > as well?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > In reply to 1 Aug message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >
> > >I need to change our server's main IP #. I know that imail is
> > >set to the hostname. Is it also tied to the IP# in the NIC
> > >card or does it not matter? Could we change it to any IP# in
> > >the Advanced Tab?
> >
> > >John Cesta
> >
> > >http://www.cybersmarts.net
> > >-------------------------------------------------
> > >Web hosting: ColdFusion ASP and ActiveState PERL Hosting
> > >SearchIt PRO - Reads IIS logfiles. Calculate Data Transfer.
> > >www.serverautomationtools.com
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Wayne Maw Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:20 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> >
> > >It's the processors on the imail machine that matters.
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of T.
> > >Bradley Dean Sent: 01 August 2000 12:55
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> > >>The affect may not be noticed on a 1 processor system, DUAL's and
> > QUAD's
> > >>show it up worse.
> >
> > >I've got dual on the SQL, single on the iMail. Where does
> > >that leave me?
> >
> > >Bradley Dean
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Wayne Maw Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:31 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> >
> > >Using the ipswitch DLL, on a busy server attempting to
> > >validate pop3 users, about 1 in 3 to 1 in 5 pop3 accesses
> > >fail, (similar problems will affect SMTP, but will not be as
> > >noticeable, meaning lots of mail will be rejected for
> > >legitimate users)
> >
> > >Niceman's dll, seems to stop the failed pop3 validation, BUT
> > >slows down your server.
> >
> > >The affect may not be noticed on a 1 processor system, DUAL's
> > >and QUAD's show it up worse.
> >
> > >(load is also a factor, as it is due to multiple simultaneous
> > >pop3/smtp requests accessing sql driver.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Mercury Internet Technical Support
> > >Sent: 01 August 2000 12:05
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> > >I have IMail 6 running on a 1 Processor PIII 550 Machine with
> > >SQL Server 7. What works seems to work ok. Although I think
> > >IPSwitch have a long way to go towards making IMail be a
> > >coherent product, it feels really quite KLUNCKY and
> > >unfinished.
> >
> > >I've noticed heavy memory and CPU usage for the SQL Server
> > >process (70 MB and 50% of CPU time), but then i have nothing
> > >to compare it against.
> >
> > >The server has about 3000 mailboxes in one table, and another
> > >300 tables with about 5-30 mailboxes each.
> >
> > >I am using the original DLL that came with Imail.
> >
> > >Would the situation improve with NICEMAN's DLL?
> >
> > >Alex Laderman
> > >Technical Manager
> > >Mercury Internet, S.L.
> >
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Wayne Maw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> > >It is a pain in the butt, IPSWITCH HAVE NEVER FIXED THE DAMN
> > >DLL to work correctly, Mike Nice (man) made an improved one,
> > >but even HE said there was fundimental flaws in the way
> > >ipswitch tries to use the sql.
> >
> > >(It's basically all related to threading, with 1 processor,
> > >you may be pretty luck, the more processors you have the
> > >worse it gets, try the normal dll and turn on sql logging on
> > >a busy server and you'll see loads of errors)
> >
> > >AND yes they have been pointed out too ipswitch several
> > >times, and nothing happened, they just release a newer
> > >version of imail with more features (for web etc) BUT NEVER
> > >FIXED THE FLAWS THAT ARE THERE in SQL!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >David Bergerson Sent: 31 July 2000 17:53
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> > >http://home.worldnet.att.net/~niceman/
> >
> > >If you get things working, please post to the list.
> >
> > >The scary thing is that I know the sql interface works. If
> > >it didn't people would be hooting and hollering. I just
> > >can't get it to work in my environment.
> >
> > >dave
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Mercury Internet Technical Support
> > >Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:57 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> > >Where can i get NICEMAN's DLL from ? ?
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: David Bergerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:50 PM
> > >Subject: [IMail Forum] SQL Server 7 - Again
> >
> >
> > >I know that this seems to be a well used and abused topic. I
> > >have read through the archives and am basically pulling my
> > >hair out on this one.
> >
> > >I have done the limited RTFM's (mail and manual) and have
> > >gotten nowhere. If someone could take the time that has
> > >gotten this to work, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > >Here is what we are trying to accomplish: Write a front end
> > >that will add and delete users. I also need to use the table
> > >for other things as well.
> >
> > >I created a database that I want to store tables in. I
> > >created one called email that has the specs that are listed
> > >in the manual. I have gotten nowhere with that. I have a
> > >system DSN that tests ok via the odbc control panel. This is
> > >a single server setup.
> >
> > >I downloaded niceman's dll and installed it per the
> > >instructions. I have no extra domains, just the default
> > >localhost domain that DNS reports to the machine.
> > >I went into the Imail admin, clicked on the machine name. It
> > >prompts for database type. I specify external db. I then
> > >point to the dll, the dsn and left the table name blank. It
> > >created a new table called dtproperties. I went to "ad
> > >support" to click it on/off to get the apply button active.
> > >I then applied the settings. I then tried to create a new
> > >user, called abc. I got the error to check the db settings. I
> > >went back to the general settings. I changed the table from
> > >default to dtproperties. No dice. I then thought that it may
> > >want it as dbo.dtproperties, again can not add a user. I then
> > >tried to use the table that I defined and no dice.
> >
> > >I am at a loss. Ironically, we are evaling this as a
> > >solution and so far it seems a pain in the butt.
> >
> >
> > >Thanks
> > >dave
> >
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