David,
I'd have to agree with you. Our modest-volume customer list (about 500
addresses, about 20 msgs per day) is just crunching our PIII-500 server
trying to get everything delivered. So I set up SendMail as a gateway,
thinking that would help, but the IMail spool *continued* to fill up with
list files, and the problem actually got worse. Now we're back to IMail
alone for sending, with 60 SMTP processes, and 10 recips per process. It's
doing "okay", but certainly not performing like a good listserver should.
Another concern is the large number of bounces we're getting, and these are
predominantly IMail admin addresses! Many, many "unknown users" coming back,
so I suspect something on the receiving end of IMail v6 as well.
Never though list management would be a PIA with only 500 subscribers... but
it is. Are there any big-time list mgrs out there using IMail v6? Surely
someone is managing more than a few thousand subscribers... are there tricks
or configurations we're missing here?
-Ron
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Gregg
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] problems sending all mail to another relay -
> bug?
>
>
> The problem is definitely Imail. I've repeated my tests to an external
> domain with 10 recipients ( normal email message with multi recips).
> Obviously, this can only be tested if you have more than 5
> addresses/aliases
> set up on a domain NOT hosted by the same imail machine.
>
> A search of the imail logs reveals that the maximum delivery is 5
> recips at
> a time.
> 1) using no gateway, the log shows multiple 'rdeliver ...
> multiple (5) ...'
> messages
> 2) using a gateway, the log shows multiple 'gdeliver ... multiple (5) ...'
> messages
>
> NOTE: I had noticed that the mailing lists seemed dramatically slower on
> 6.04 than they did on my old (and less powered) imail 5.08 machine. I
> believe this is the problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, September 29, 2000 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] problems sending all mail to another
> relay - bug?
>
>
> >David,
> >
> >In IMail, only the normal Debug checkbox. But I seem to recall something
> >form the release notes for 6.04 (or earlier) that did state
> something about
> >a debug setting. I'd have to chase that down.
> >
> >Is the mail going to an external server? Maybe some limit at
> that end that
> >will only allow a certain number of recepients?
> >
> >If you eliminate the Gateway, you say IMail works OK?! Then I
> would have to
> >say it is not IMail, but the gateway limiting the input. But without
> knowing
> >more (logs from both might tell us something), cannot state that for a
> fact.
> >
> >If the email addresses that are being processed, are to
> different domains,
> >then I would expect IMail to connect to one domain and deliver and
> >disconnect. Unless the email addresses were consecutive and to multiple
> >users on the same domain, then I too would expect it to have
> multiple RCPT
> >TO: lines, so it would be more efficient in delivery. Unless the
> gateway is
> >posing some limit as above. I've not seen a log from IMail in this
> >situation, so not sure what it might show.
> >
> >Found this in the 6.04 Release notes. Might give a bit more info in the
> log.
> >At least it would tell you which messages are actually delivered in the
> >session.
> >
> >o Logging additions for SMTP, IMAP and POP3.
> > - Added message status notification to log system. The
> > user can now set a registry key to toggle logging of
> > the delivery of a message to a mailbox. The message's
> > UIDL and the mailbox it is delivered to are noted.
> >
> > To have the new log entries added to the log, you must
> > add this key to the registry and give it a value of 1.
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ipswitch\IMail\Global\LogMsgStatus
> > The messages are in the standard IMail log format.
> > Here are the log entries for various types of server
> > actions:
> >
> > SMTP:
> > Delivery:
> > Message xxxx delivered to yyyy
> > POP3:
> > Read:
> > Message xxxx read from yyyy
> > Delete:
> > Message xxxx deleted from yyyy
> > IMAP:
> > Read:
> > Message xxxx read from yyyy
> > Delete:
> > Message xxxx deleted from yyyy
> > Move:
> > Message xxxx copied from yyyy to xxxx in yyyy.
> > Append:
> > Message xxxx appended to yyyy.
> > Expunge:
> > Message xxxx expunged from yyyy.
> >
> > Where:
> > xxxx - The UIDL of the message.
> > yyyy - The mailbox path.
> >
> > It is important to note that a POP3 delete entry
> > means the message was physically removed from the
> > mailbox, while an IMAP4 delete entry means the
> > message was "marked" for deletion, but not physically
> > removed. An IMAP4 "Expunge" physically removes the
> > message from the mailbox.
> >
> >BTW, I'm on my way home in a couple of minutes. I'll try to check email
> >later tonight from home, to see what else you find. Have a good evening!
> >
> >Daniel Donnelly
> >________________________________________________________
> >See the Knowledge Base at http://support.ipswitch.com/kb
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Gregg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] problems sending all mail to another relay -
> bug?
> >
> >
> >> >Are you saying you do not have the registry modified for the SMTP
> >> >MaxRcptPerMessage, set to 5?
> >>
> >> Correct, no setting has been added. Are there any debug settings that
> >might
> >> help me troubleshoot this?
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >> If I don't relay all mail thru a separate machine, the imail list works
> >fine
> >> ( more than 5 recips at a time)
> >>
> >> Also, the imail logs show the outgoing connections for the list email.
> It
> >> appears that each of the communications to the mail relay, imail is
> >sending
> >> exactly one RCPT TO: then the DATA, then disconnects. I'd
> expect to see
> >> multiple RCPT TO:s ( five in this case) per HELO/QUIT.
> >>
> >> Your thoughts?
> >>
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