Yuri,

I had not thought of that.  That will solve so many problems for me.

Thank you,

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yuri Levenfeld
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Limit on the Alias field


You can double and triple 25-255 rule for domain aliases if you create some
virtual IP-less domains with user directories in the same place as in the
main domain. Then the administrator can alias virtual domain(s) to his
heart's content.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Madison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:58 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Limit on the Alias field


> Phillip,
>
> I just converted a sendmail server that had 48 hosts aliases.  These
aliases
> were all sub domains of the main domain but here is how I got around the
> limitation.  I don't know if this will work for you or not.
>
> Here is the whole story.  I would just like to start by saying that this
is
> in no way how I would have desired to configure this system but it was an
> ugly necessity to get these users off of the crapy sendmail system they
were
> on.  Basically I have an IMail server configured as host mail.mydomain.com
> with a host alias for mydomain.com.  On the sendmail system there also
> existed 48 host aliases for sub domains such as ant.mydomain.com.  These
> host aliases work just the same as host aliases in IMail.  The killer
> limitation that I ran into is that you can only have 25 host aliases with
a
> max length of 255 characters on IMail.  To get around this I stumbled
across
> the following oddity with IMail.  If I point the MX for ant.mydomain.com
to
> the host mail.mydomain.com the server will receive mail for
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Actually it does not accept it for delivery at
first
> but accepts the message for relay.  When IMail goes to relay the message
it
> does an MX lookup for ant.mydomain.com and receives direction back to it's
> self.  I am theorizing that for some reason this prompts it do a local
> delivery with mydomain.com.  At any rate that's what happens.  The problem
> here is that host mail.mydomain.com must first accept the message for
relay.
> Unless you want to open your system as an wide open relay you have another
> hurdle to cross. To get around this issue I setup a sendmail system to
> receive mail for ant.mydomain.com.  I then pointed the MX for
> ant.mydomain.com to relay.relaysystem.com.  You can configure sendmail in
> such a way as to have it "route" mail based on domain with out doing an MX
> lookup.  Thus mail would come in from the Internet to the relay system and
> then be routed to the IMail box.  I then only had to add the IP address of
> the relay system to the allow table on the IMail system.  But I now had
> another problem.  I had changed the MX record for ant.mydomain.com to
point
> to the relay system and not directly to the IMail system.  This broke the
> functionality of IMail relaying messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] back to
> its self.  To fix this I had to tweak the DNS host that IMail uses for
> lookups.  I had to make that host report back that the MX for
> ant.mydomain.com directed to mail.mydomain.com.  Obviously this DNS host
can
> not be the same host that the rest of the world looks to for MX records
for
> ant.mydomain.com or you break the whole thing over again.  As you can see
> this is very elaborate and not a preferred way of configuring a mail
system.
> If this helps anyone out - Great.  If I had my way I would ask that IMail
> expand the capability to allow at least a greater number of host aliases
(50
> aliases with 1000 character max).  In a perfect world I would ask for
> unlimited host aliases configured in a text file.  Perhaps
hostaliases.txt.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phillip
> Rexinger
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Limit on the Alias field
>
>
> I am also faced with this problem... it's rather urgent that we find a
> work-around.  I have around 50 domains that all use the same server!
>
> If we can't find a work around... I don't think we can use this mail
> server...
>
> Phillip Rexinger
> www.adamsbusinessmedia.com
> Director, Internet Operations
> 68-860 Perez Road
> Cathedral City, CA 92234
> 760.770.4370
> 760.770.2797 FAX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martha Flugstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:01 AM
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Limit on the Alias field
>
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >      We are in the process of converting our mail system from 22 Novell
> > servers to one IMail server.  We have converted thirteen servers so far.
> > At the time that we converted the first server, the only way we could
find
> > to allow incoming mail to the old server name was to enter that name as
an
> > alias for the IMail server.  And, only the fully qualified host name
would
> > work.  That is, we had to enter hostname.domainname.edu.  When we
> converted
> > the thirteenth server this week, we reached the 255 character limit on
the
> > alias field.  We found a workaround by removing a server name that had
> never
> > been officially used for mail, but we will be in trouble next week if we
> > don't find a solution to this.  We had originally thought that if we had
a
> > CNAME record in the DNS for the Novell servers that this would be
> adequate.
> > We do have these CNAME records in the DNS and we are able to send mail
> > locally with no problem even to the server that is not listed as an
alias.
> > However, sending from a account on hotmail.com fails with the message
"550
> > not a local host, not a gateway" unless we have the fully qualified
> hostname
> > in the alias field.  Does anyone know what to do about this?  Thanks for
> > your help.
> >
> > Martha Flugstad
> >
> >
>
>
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