David,
Just don't forget, again!!! And teach it to someone else!
Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
>
>
> > I'm sorry, but I do not agree with this statement:
> > >So, for all domains
> > > virtual or with IP it doesn't matter which name is used as the host
and
> > > alias, mail.domain3.com/domain3.com.
> > See my first email!
>
> Oops,
>
> Meant to say ...for all secondary domains...
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
>
>
> > David,
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I do not agree with this statement:
> > >So, for all domains
> > > virtual or with IP it doesn't matter which name is used as the host
and
> > > alias, mail.domain3.com/domain3.com.
> > See my first email!
> >
> > But with the conditions I stated, yes, your statement is correct.
> >
> > Advantages? Only one I know is that by using 'domain.name', the users
> > default Return Address, becomes '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' rather than
> > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Administrators of domains using Web
Messaging
> > seem to like this better. Personally, I don't see it as an advantage
> because
> > proper setup of DNS will allow either form of addressing to work and
> > standard email clients allow users to set their Return Address to
whatever
> > they want.
> >
> > Daniel Donnelly
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Daniel,
> > >
> > > This is what I thought was the case but wasn't sure. So, for all
> domains
> > > virtual or with IP it doesn't matter which name is used as the host
and
> > > alias, mail.domain3.com/domain3.com. My question then, is there any
> > > advantage to doing it either way?
> > >
> > > I see it two ways:
> > >
> > > 1. Using mail.domain3.com as OHN and domain3.com as Alias - let's our
> > client
> > > appear larger by having their own mail server. (However, 99% of users
> > would
> > > never notice this)
> > >
> > > 2. Using domain3.com as OHN and mail.domain3.com as Alias - gives
users
> > the
> > > "reply-to" of domain3.com without having to manually set the reply-to
> > field.
> > >
> > > Is this basically it or is there something I'm missing?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> > >
> > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > As I said before, for any other IP address or virtual domain, the
> naming
> > > of
> > > > the domain, is your decision and it can be either
> 'machine.domain.name'
> > or
> > > > 'domain.name'.
> > > >
> > > > The manual shows 'jupiter7.space.com' as the OHN of the domain using
> the
> > > IP
> > > > address (Primary) shown. Pg 31 is describing how to add a second
> domain
> > to
> > > a
> > > > system that already has the one domain configured. The name
> > > > 'mail.domain2.com' is assumed to be the name used for this second
> domain
> > > > being added. In actuality, the name 'domain2.com' could just as well
> be
> > > > used.
> > > >
> > > > No, Len's email answer is not contradicting the manual. He is
agreeing
> > > with
> > > > the manual and me! Again, for any secondary IPs or for virtual
domains
> > > > without IPs, the 'domain.name' or 'machine.domain.name' can be used.
> > ONLY
> > > > the name and IP for the Primary IP address need match the REAL host
> name
> > > (or
> > > > an entry in the HOSTS file is need).
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:58 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Daniel,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your response. I think I understand. However am still
a
> > bit
> > > > > confused. The domain I was refererring to was a virtual domain(s)
> > > > > with/without IP address, not the Primay Mail Host.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pg 31 of 6.0 manual says setup Official Host Name as
mail.domain.***
> > and
> > > > set
> > > > > the alias to domain.***. However in the picture of their example
> they
> > > > have
> > > > > different made-up 3rd level name "jupiter7.space.com". I am
> assuming
> > > that
> > > > > they mean that "jupiter7" is the name of their mail server for
that
> > > domain
> > > > =
> > > > > to "mail." in their text and my application.
> > > > >
> > > > > The item confusing me however is from the following message a
while
> > back
> > > > >
> > > > > >>Each time I setup a new domain I set it up with a hostname of
> > > > > >>mail.domain.com, then I give it an alias of just domain.com.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >reverse that
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Then I setup all the users, etc. An I setting up everything
> > right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >no
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> If there is a way to set it up so that instead of making the
> > > hostname
> > > > > >> mail.domain.com and then using an alias, can I just bypass that
> > step?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >mail host is domain.com and mail host alias mail.domain.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Len
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The info from this message appears to contradict the manual and
the
> > way
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > settup up my domains. Right? If so, is there some advantage I am
> > > missing
> > > > > by doing this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:37 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > David,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've said it dozens of times here in the forum, in many threads.
> > Here
> > > is
> > > > > the
> > > > > > short answer:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To use anything other than the true hostname for the domain
> running
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > Primary IP address, one must add an entry in the HOSTS file. See
> > > manual
> > > > > > (V6), pg 26, Checking Configuration of the Primary Mail Host.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For any other IPs and domains, you do not need anything special,
> as
> > > far
> > > > as
> > > > > > IMail is concerned.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why? Basically it has to do with 'name resolution' within IMail
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > local machine. And it is likely that 'domain.com' has a
different
> A
> > > > record
> > > > > > than 'mail.domain.com' and getting that from DNS would cause
IMail
> > to
> > > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > deliver to the 'wrong' host.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:31 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm hoping someone can help me with a bit of advice. In
setting
> > up
> > > a
> > > > > > domain
> > > > > > > I've always used the Imail recommendation (I don't know why
just
> > > > always
> > > > > > done
> > > > > > > it this way) of the Officical host name = mail.domainname.com
> > (.net,
> > > > > etc.)
> > > > > > > and the Alias=domainname.com. However, I remember a vauge
> > reference
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > months back in this list about doing this the opposite way. I
> am
> > > > using
> > > > > > > mostly Registry for these domains (a few SQL) and all have
> unique
> > > IPs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can't seem to find much "why" about this in the KB or
Manual.
> > Any
> > > > > input
> > > > > > > greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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