David,
I'm sorry, but I do not agree with this statement:
>So, for all domains
> virtual or with IP it doesn't matter which name is used as the host and
> alias, mail.domain3.com/domain3.com.
See my first email!
But with the conditions I stated, yes, your statement is correct.
Advantages? Only one I know is that by using 'domain.name', the users
default Return Address, becomes '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' rather than
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Administrators of domains using Web Messaging
seem to like this better. Personally, I don't see it as an advantage because
proper setup of DNS will allow either form of addressing to work and
standard email clients allow users to set their Return Address to whatever
they want.
Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> Thanks Daniel,
>
> This is what I thought was the case but wasn't sure. So, for all domains
> virtual or with IP it doesn't matter which name is used as the host and
> alias, mail.domain3.com/domain3.com. My question then, is there any
> advantage to doing it either way?
>
> I see it two ways:
>
> 1. Using mail.domain3.com as OHN and domain3.com as Alias - let's our
client
> appear larger by having their own mail server. (However, 99% of users
would
> never notice this)
>
> 2. Using domain3.com as OHN and mail.domain3.com as Alias - gives users
the
> "reply-to" of domain3.com without having to manually set the reply-to
field.
>
> Is this basically it or is there something I'm missing?
>
> Thanks
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
>
>
> > David,
> >
> > As I said before, for any other IP address or virtual domain, the naming
> of
> > the domain, is your decision and it can be either 'machine.domain.name'
or
> > 'domain.name'.
> >
> > The manual shows 'jupiter7.space.com' as the OHN of the domain using the
> IP
> > address (Primary) shown. Pg 31 is describing how to add a second domain
to
> a
> > system that already has the one domain configured. The name
> > 'mail.domain2.com' is assumed to be the name used for this second domain
> > being added. In actuality, the name 'domain2.com' could just as well be
> > used.
> >
> > No, Len's email answer is not contradicting the manual. He is agreeing
> with
> > the manual and me! Again, for any secondary IPs or for virtual domains
> > without IPs, the 'domain.name' or 'machine.domain.name' can be used.
ONLY
> > the name and IP for the Primary IP address need match the REAL host name
> (or
> > an entry in the HOSTS file is need).
> >
> > Daniel Donnelly
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> >
> >
> > > Hello Daniel,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response. I think I understand. However am still a
bit
> > > confused. The domain I was refererring to was a virtual domain(s)
> > > with/without IP address, not the Primay Mail Host.
> > >
> > > Pg 31 of 6.0 manual says setup Official Host Name as mail.domain.***
and
> > set
> > > the alias to domain.***. However in the picture of their example they
> > have
> > > different made-up 3rd level name "jupiter7.space.com". I am assuming
> that
> > > they mean that "jupiter7" is the name of their mail server for that
> domain
> > =
> > > to "mail." in their text and my application.
> > >
> > > The item confusing me however is from the following message a while
back
> > >
> > > >>Each time I setup a new domain I set it up with a hostname of
> > > >>mail.domain.com, then I give it an alias of just domain.com.
> > > >
> > > >reverse that
> > > >
> > > >> Then I setup all the users, etc. An I setting up everything
right?
> > > >
> > > >no
> > > >
> > > >> If there is a way to set it up so that instead of making the
> hostname
> > > >> mail.domain.com and then using an alias, can I just bypass that
step?
> > > >
> > > >mail host is domain.com and mail host alias mail.domain.com
> > > >
> > > >Len
> > >
> > >
> > > The info from this message appears to contradict the manual and the
way
> I
> > am
> > > settup up my domains. Right? If so, is there some advantage I am
> missing
> > > by doing this?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > David
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Daniel Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> > >
> > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > I've said it dozens of times here in the forum, in many threads.
Here
> is
> > > the
> > > > short answer:
> > > >
> > > > To use anything other than the true hostname for the domain running
on
> > the
> > > > Primary IP address, one must add an entry in the HOSTS file. See
> manual
> > > > (V6), pg 26, Checking Configuration of the Primary Mail Host.
> > > >
> > > > For any other IPs and domains, you do not need anything special, as
> far
> > as
> > > > IMail is concerned.
> > > >
> > > > Why? Basically it has to do with 'name resolution' within IMail and
> the
> > > > local machine. And it is likely that 'domain.com' has a different A
> > record
> > > > than 'mail.domain.com' and getting that from DNS would cause IMail
to
> > try
> > > to
> > > > deliver to the 'wrong' host.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > > ________________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Setzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Official Host Name
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm hoping someone can help me with a bit of advice. In setting
up
> a
> > > > domain
> > > > > I've always used the Imail recommendation (I don't know why just
> > always
> > > > done
> > > > > it this way) of the Officical host name = mail.domainname.com
(.net,
> > > etc.)
> > > > > and the Alias=domainname.com. However, I remember a vauge
reference
> > > some
> > > > > months back in this list about doing this the opposite way. I am
> > using
> > > > > mostly Registry for these domains (a few SQL) and all have unique
> IPs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't seem to find much "why" about this in the KB or Manual.
Any
> > > input
> > > > > greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > >
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