We found ORBS to be too restrictive.  We do use mail-abuse.org who have a
very selective database.  ORBS caused way too much regular e-mail to be
blocked causing a lot of complaints.  We add IP address to our own manual
database as we see the junk mail bounce to non-existent users, etc., and all
entries are checked manually first to be sure it's crap mail.

If you are in ORBS and you want out, just go to their site to see if you are
listed, and ask them to retest you by submitting/reporting your server
again.  If you are in the automated database then you definitely have an
open relay.  If you are retested and you are not relaying you will be
removed.

----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] ORBS.ORG - Offline? What's the deal


>
> >Anyone know what happened to orbs.org?  One of our IMail systems was
> >recently added to it (we recieved an EMail from them stating so),
> >however the IMail system is NOT an open relay in any way.  Upon going to
> >their site, it says the following:
>
> I've never heard of ORBS listing an IP address that was not an open relay;
> you really should double-check it.
>
> >"Due to circumstances beyond our control, the ORBS website is no longer
> >available."
>
> Most likely they were hacked.
>
> >I know they've had ongoing issues with the "Spam-police" at
> >mail-abuse.org.  Does anyone here seriously use either of these
> >services?  If so, why?  Is it because you don't know how to configure a
> >good mail filtering system or is there some feature I'm missing?
>
> A *lot* of people use them, especially the mail-abuse.org ones.  RBL, RSS,
> and DUL are very useful with low false positives.  Some people say that
> ORBS should be used because so few legitimate mail servers are still open
> relays, and those that aren't need to learn to fix their open relays.  I
> personally wouldn't block on ORBS (except the spam source databases and
such).
>
>                                                          -Scott
>
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>
>
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