We also got stuck on ORBZ for a while.  It was due to something strange
between our virus firewall and IMail, and we never could get either one to
own up to the problem, so I ended up having to block every To: address with
a % in it at the firewall to keep IMail from improperly handling it.  Not
sure if this helps you at all, but something to look at.

Jeff Underwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
WestCoastNet
(877)996-9700


-----Original Message-----
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 6:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] orbz



>   Has anyone successfully got there server removed from this stupid list. 
> (ORBZ) We run a severer that does not relay, let me repeate that, we do 
> not relay,  however, somehow we got on their list and they will not remove
it.

12.23.74.5 isn't listed in there.

But, 99% of the time, people who get blacklisted ARE running an open relay 
(or were sending out spam).  They usually have a URL in the warning that 
shows you why you were listed.

Are you using "Relay for Addresses" or "No Mail Relay"?

>  I thought that they were running a great service till I became a victim 
> of the witch hunt.

People running open relays often feel this way.

But, getting paying customers is hard when you offer free services to
spammers.

>Any one out there know how to deal with these people and get the server 
>removed from the list.

Yes -- close your open relay.  We got listed in there (we run an open relay 
intentionally; our Declude Hijack sucks up all the spam that spammers try 
to relay), and once they saw us as a closed relay, we got unlisted.  Quite 
easy.

Rather than complain about ORBZ, how about mentioning *why* you were listed 
-- that's the key to getting out.  What is the IP address of the server 
that was listed?

                                                    -Scott
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Declude: Anti-virus, Anti-spam and Anti-hijacking solutions for 
IMail.  http://www.declude.com


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