I had completely forgotten to consider that use. In a weighting system, it could be more useful. In such an environment a more localized provider would be in the best position to manage such a system. Larger regional and National/international ISPs would be in the worst possible position. Gee, for once the little guys could come out ahead. Some how that seems contrary to the laws of business & the web.
Thanks for pointing out my oversight. Kevin Childers ,,,,, ����} ~' Customer Support Desk (910) 486-7845 / (888) 228-0312 Fayetteville Internet Communications APCNet - FayNet - NetQuick - QuickWAN The Carolinas' Fastest Internet Communications Provider ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Declude please > > >Worked when I went there. > > > >As the employee of an ISP I see many drawbacks to blocking entire countries. > > So do I. :) > > We have customers in quite a few different countries, and we certainly > wouldn't choose to ban E-mail from any country. And most of our customers > don't plan to ban mail from any country, either. The most common use seems > to be with the weighting system in Declude JunkMail. > > That way, countries that lots of spam goes through, but not much legitimate > mail goes through (such as Korea and China) can have a weight of "5" (as an > example). That way, standard mail from those countries would go through > without a problem. However, if they have other problems as well, the fact > that they are from a "spam friendly" country may push up the weight so that > the E-mail will get caught. And "caught" can even mean delivered to the > recipient with "SPAM:" in the subject, not necessarily deleted. > > >Country blocking is just not feasible, nor do I > >think it is a good idea even if it were. > > And that's why we waited until now to try to identify E-mail by the > country/countries it goes through. Before, the tests were all pass/fail, > so identifying the country would mean treating the E-mail as spam or > legitimate mail based solely on the country. Now, however, it can be used > in a manner that mail from those countries will normally get through, > unless they are coming from open relays or broken mail clients or have > other such problems (in which case their mail would likely get caught > anyways on many servers). > > >While spammers are the Bain of the > >entire web, that does not in my opinion constitute a good enough reason to > >ban all traffic based on the country it comes from. > > And we would strongly discourage doing that. I don't think E-mail from any > country should be banned. > > Note that with Declude JunkMail, mail can be delivered to the recipient in > such a way that spam is filtered to a separate folder. That way, even if a > company chose to "ban" E-mail from a certain country, the recipient could > still receive it. But we would still recommend instead using the weighting > system. > > Another way it can be useful is as an enhancement to our ROUTING test, > which checks for very poor routing common in spam (for example, if someone > in the United States sends E-mail to someone else in the United States, but > routes in through China). > > A few short years ago, spam control was just using the RBL (or RBL and > ORBS) tests to either add an X-RBL-Warning: header to the E-mail, or block > it completely. Two tests, two actions. Today, however, there are over 65 > publicly accessible spam databases and about a dozen different actions that > can be taken on spam, so that spam doesn't have to be "lost" (like AOL does). > > --- > Declude: Anti-virus, Anti-spam and Anti-hijacking solutions for > IMail. http://www.declude.com > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > to be removed from this list. > > An Archive of this list is available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked > questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
