How long did it take for the Patriots Act to be pushed thru, and how much does
it cost the taxpayers?

Lew


The Innkeeper wrote:

> You know folks I have been following this discussion somewhat haphazardly I
> must admit.  Many of the things I have seen within the discussion doesn't
> take something into consideration.
>
> 1)  This is an election year.  As such there are a lot of bills seen in both
> the house and senate that have no corresponding bill in the other side.  If
> a bill is going thru the house but it has no counterpart in the senate then
> it is usually just election fluff.  I have seen no corresponding bill to
> this on the senate side.  Now this is not saying that it won't move on to
> the senate possibly, but it does say that it is unlikely.  Even if it does
> move to the senate side you can be sure that it won't move as a requirement
> to store email for 90 days since it just costs too much.
>
> Below is a quote directly from the Internet Industry Associations reports on
> this bill:
>
> No indication of whether it stands a chance for passage
> this year, but a new bill from Texas Republican Lamar Smith
> would make it easier for ISPs to report data about subscribers
> who commit cybercrimes without facing lawsuits over privacy.
>
> HR 3482, the Cyber Security Enhancement Act of 2001 would
> for the first time allow ISPs to report threats that are
> not immediate or life-threatening.  The bill would also
> change the sentencing guidelines for cybercrimes so that
> the intention of the perpetrator can be considered in addition
> to the dollar cost of the damages that occur.
>
> The bill would also establish an Office of Science and
> Technology within the US Department of Justice.
>
> Hopefully this puts a few of the concerns and issues to rest....
>
> Steve
>
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>
> > exactly
> >
> > Drew Weaver wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm, if they're gonna control how we store it whats to say they wont
> just
> > > regulate the whole thing.
> > >
> > > -Drew
> > >
> > >
> > > Personaly, I see this as a good way to get the government to pay for a
> bunch
> > > of new equipment!  :)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jason,
> > > >
> > > > They DON'T care how much it costs the taxpayers because (up to this
> > > > point)
> > > the
> > > > taxpayers are exceedingly willing to foot the bill.
> > > >
> > > > Lew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jason Newland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > yeah, but if you read the amendments that have been attached to the
> > > bill,
> > > > > they state that the government will compensate for expenses incurred
> > > > > by conformity to the bill.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think they realize how much money this will cost the
> > > > > taxpayer.
> > > > >
> > > > > jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > "ISPs would face penalties for not storing customer electronic
> > > records,
> > > > > > including e-mail, for at least 90 days. The bill now moves to the
> > > House
> > > > > > floor for a full vote, although no date has been scheduled."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_1080171,00.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And who is going to pay for the servers needed to store email for
> > > > > > 90
> > > days?
> > > > > > Can you say terabytes? I don't think so Vern!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And do we have to store Spam and Viruses too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheldon
>
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