Len,

Shame on you for flaming Microsoft when all they're doing is fulfilling
a commitment that they made to their customers.  They promised to
substantially reduce spam to their notmail (that's not a misspelling)
clients by implementing the Brightmail solution, and they're certainly
accomplishing that very nicely by not accepting most e-mail.  The fact
that valid e-mail can't get through is of little to no consequence to
them.  After all, they are reducing spam as promised.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 1:17 PM
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] (not so)Hotmail problems?


hotmail MX's have been/are a fscking mess.

As befits the Evil Empire, they are arrogant @ssholes towards the rest
of 
Internet. You don't publish A records for MX hosts that you know aren't 
functional, since if you do, other peoples' mail servers will waste
their 
time trusting the MX/A records and try to contact them.

I think Hotmail's current catastrophe may be related to the fact that 
Brightmail is supplying them with IMGate-type of MX host machines to
fight 
the horrendous SPAM problems that Hotmail's policies have visted on
their 
110 million Hotmail users.

I suppose MS is insisting that the Brightmail machines be W2K, but W2K
MX's 
already couldn't handle the load with no anti-abuse policies to apply,
HTF 
are they going to handle the significant extra processing/disk load of 
Brigtmail policies?

Here's what IMGate saw yeterday when trying to delivery a msgs to
hotmail:

Host/Domain Summary: Message Delivery (top 20)
  sent cnt  bytes   defers   avg dly max dly host/domain
  -------- -------  -------  ------- ------- -----------
     461    21352k       1    14.1 s   20.1 m  aol.com
     208     4524k       0     5.3 s   54.0 s  yahoo.com
     205     3695k     144    13.1 m    3.4 h  hotmail.com

I put the other big ISP's up there for comparison to embarrass
MS/Hotmail 
to the max.  The above is typical for every day. Those MS/Hotmail clowns

don't have clue about infrastructure management.

Len



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