Yes, I did think about the order in which the services were started.  I went
into IIS admin yesterday and noted that SMTP wasn't running in there...and
made the assumption that it was disabled as it should have been...so I
foolishly failed to check the service itself.  That server is hardly every
rebooted...only when a patch is installed...so it is possible that IMail's
SMTP service was started before Microsofts, up until that fateful
moment...yesterday.  This probably happened first when IMail's SMTP service
was stopped for testing while diagnosing the problem.  Makes sense to me....

Dennis T. Kemp II (Tom)
Program Manager MCSE/CNA/A+
Control Concepts, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Interesting experience with IMail server
behind a Netscreen firewall


>FYI, the so-called DMZ of the Netscreen doesn't mean that it's wide open.
>You can set rules and NAT addressing on that port as well, and we have.
>Only Email-related traffic is allowed through this port

I believe all firewall DMZ zones are not wide open. You must configure
rules.

>That strange thing about this is that this server has been running for
>several months without issue.  I half wonder if one of Microsoft's patches
>didn't re-enable the service.  Why wouldn't it have caused a problem before
>if it was never disabled?!  We've installed all but Windows 2000 SP3...as
we
>have been leary about this service.  I've had mixed results in
>updating...problems with services not starting due to incorrect passwords
>for the service start.  Any problems from others with SP3?

 A client of ours had TrendMicro InterScan installed on the same server as
Exchange. Exchange was working great for about 6 months with many restarts.
Then, on one restart, no mail was moving in or out. Turns out that the
company that installed the server and configured it, (they are no longer
providing support to that client,) had Exchange and InterScan both listening
on port 25. Only thing we, TrendMicro and Microsoft came up with is that all
the other times the Exchange SMTP server always started before InterScan,
and therefore worked. This time, some how InterScan started first and
therefore would not let Exchange SMTP server start.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com




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