I would still try them on another switch bypassing the one you currently
use.  Sometimes switches fail in stages.  I have seen it happen before
where ports on a switch just start going bad.  It just seems hard to
believe that there could be any other reason that 7 mail servers just
started failing.  The only other things I would try is removing the NIC
and reinstalling it (just through the control panel) and upgrading to
the latest service pack or reinstalling the latest one (I  think you
said you were at NT 4 with SP 6) but neither of these solutions seem
like they would fix an issue that 7 servers are having.  If you do try
them on another switch and they work out I would get rid of the bad
switch all together instead of using the remaining good ports.  If there
is no other switch available switch the servers that are failing over to
ports that have servers that are working fine.  Beyond this I would
think a look at the router and or firewall would be in order.  You or
your provider should be able to look in the router to see the logs there
to see if packets are getting screwed up somehow.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shad Pulley
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Mail servers unite and crash just before the
holiday weekend!!!

They are all on the same core switch with over 100 other servers
including
other imail servers....

Thanks,
 
Shad D. Pulley
Sr. Systems Engineer
IKANO Communications
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
801-415-8023

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel
Donnelly
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Mail servers unite and crash just before the
holiday weekend!!!

Shad,

Re:
> The log files show the 10054 and 10053 errors
> around the times that the service spikes.

Are those errors triggered by any particular user, IP address,
browser, request for a particular page, etc... (look a bit farther
back in the logs).

I would have to agree on the network issue as being the probable
cause. Leave that to others who know more than I... hmmm... are all 7
on the same network and branch or share something else in common? Can
you move one closer to the internet and see what that does? (just a
few ideas...)

Dan Donnelly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shad Pulley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Mail servers unite and crash just before
the holiday weekend!!!


> I think you're right..  It's not a message in any particular
mailbox.  I
> think it's a network/connection issue.  A kill command will usually
work if
> we get it in quick enough.  The log files show the 10054 and 10053
errors
> around the times that the service spikes.
>
> The boxes are virus free and we abandoned port 80 back when code red
was
> flying around.  It's on the default 8383 now.  It kind of builds up
to
> eventually crashing, but it happens in the matter of a few minutes,
not
> hours...  I have diskeeper running on the boxes.  I can't say that
it keeps
> up, but it runs every night between 9PM and 8AM.
>
>
> Keep in mind that there are 7 servers I'm talking about here, not
just 1..
> So no hardware changes nor any significant software changes.  No
event logs
> so to speak..  Just the terminated unexpectedly errors from when we
issue
> the kill command.
>
> Thanks for all the ideas,
>
> Shad D. Pulley
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> IKANO Communications
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 801-415-8023
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel
Donnelly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Mail servers unite and crash just before
the
> holiday weekend!!!
>
> I think you and Len are going down the wrong path.
>
> If iwebmsg.exe is showing high CPU, does a stop/start of the service
> 'fix' things (at least for a little while)? If it does, that is
good,
> and the logs may tell us what is happening. With the W2*.log files
and
> the computer time when CPU starting going high, the timestamped logs
> can show connections and actions requested and taken and with a few
> samples, you may even spot a trend/cause.
>
> By any chance is your Web Messaging running on port 80? If so, it
> could be under attack. I think it was Nimbda, and Code Red, a while
> back that gave these symptoms. Maybe other forms of attacks could
show
> them, too. If I remember, W2 logs showed unusual requests for system
> folders/files... Someone else here in the forum also reported that
not
> using port 80 helped them on some other Web MSG issues...
>
> Are you seeing increasing resource usage over time, by iwebmsg? Does
> it all free up when you stop/start the service?
>
> Has the hard drive (storing the users folders) been recently
> defragged? If not, it cannot hurt and may have significant positive
> effects.
>
> Has anything new been added to the computer or has any change been
> made in its configuration, recently? Checked for virus/Trojans/worms
> on the system? Maybe something got in that you have not yet
detected?
>
> Have you checked Event logs? Any errors and warnings should be
> rectified, ASAP. Especially, if they begin to appear around the same
> time of this IMail problem.
>
> HTH,
> Dan Donnelly
>


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