fwiw - It's kind of sad to read that an ISP thinks their customers are
idiots...

Regards,

David Gregg
dgSoft Internet Services
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sheldon Koehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] How to fight spam, etc...


> > I've basically been on a rant, but I do have a question for you
> > folks... what have you found to be the most effective method of
> > fighting spam while avoiding false positives? I even attended a two-day
> > Ipswitch seminar to have them answer this question. Their answer? They
> > didn't give me a straight one. Biggest waste of $1500 I have ever seen.
>
> I have been running Imail since version 3 (1996). Our first line of Spam
> defense is IMGate (1999?). We then added Declude Virus (2001) and was so
> impressed we added Declude Junkmail.
>
> We now have 2 IMGate boxes set up as MX10 and MX20 and they pass to the
> Imail server (Windows 2k). Since we are a small ISP, we have to let more
> email past IMGate than I would like for the idiots, I mean users, that
> actually LIKE the spamEzines and so on. We then take great advantage of
> Decludes weighting capabilities and this works very well coupled with
> Sniffer as a weighted test.
>
> It is a never ending battle to keep up with the latest techniques of
> Spammers. I am now seeing Spam that passes all tests! RDNS and so on. Very
> aggravating to say the least.
>
> We are still using Imail 7.15. Version 8 has not enticed us yet to upgrade
> and I have not heard one person on this list say they were happy with
Imail
> 8's anti spam features. The rules have been there for a long time and most
> people using them find they work quite well. I find them to cumbersome to
> work with personally.
>
> Yes, I would agree you wasted $1500 if that is what you paid for the
> Ipswitch seminar. You would have been better off taking Len's DNS class
> through Men and Mice! One of the best $ I ever spent on a class.
>
> But sit back, take a deep breath and pay attention to this list. There is
> some of the best help on the internet here once you get past the flames
and
> ego's. Imail has been one of the most STABLE programs I have ever used.
Even
> I have my complaints, but stability and ease of use are not on the list...
>
>
> Sheldon
>
>
> Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partner        http://www.tenforward.com
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>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
> to pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
>
>
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