Comon now you two...you both help everyone out a lot and this is a big sandbox.
I've benefitted from both of you and hope to continue to do so. If you guys have to chop up each other, it would be better done in private and not on the list. If guys like you stop helping and giving free advice (not free for some of us with support contracts) then the Internet as a whole will suffer. The thing is built on a spirit of cooperation. I appreciate both of you. Andrew Thumpernet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] WTF? > > >As you can see, anyone can make it into a single blacklist. > > sh!t happens > > > Just about every spam database has had at least one false positive > > and this is some kind of catastrophe to be avoided at all costs? > > >and just about every legitimate mailserver has made it into at least one > >spam database at one time or another. > > and the huge benefits of RBL servers vastly outweigh such minuscule, > temporary mistakes. > > For all the valid rejects by RBL servers, how many legit rejects are there? > > >You've fallen for Len's statistics. :) > > You've insulted Les and all IMGate users as if they are soporific rats > following a Pied Piper's tune into hell. Stop your FUD. > > IMGate admin run their own severs, set their own policies and filters, read > the detailed reports about what's going on, and make their own > decisions about what IMGate does for them. > > >>since i have been using RBL's i've had less than a dozen false positives. > > > >That you know of. :) > > FUD. He knows what he knows, and his IMGate is not a disaster or wildly > blocking tons of legit mail, or he nor anybody else would be using it. > > >the using-A-record-when-MX-exists bug 100%). Then, I have to check to see > >if we were blocked for some dumb reason (there hasn't been a good reason yet). > > declude's server is on a charter subscriber net (that for some reason > will not relay its outbound through Computerized Horizons non-subscriber > IPs), and subscriber IPs are guilty of spamming until proven innocent. > > >At that point, I say "screw this" and walk away, no longer offering free > >advice. ... but the Internet as a whole loses out. > > oh, really?? The Saviour puts down His Cross and Interet goes to Hell, is > that it? > > >If you don't think the Internet as a whole would lose out (some people > >don't), that's OK > > thanks, we'll be OK then. > > > -- you can just picture the same scenario with someone else that offers > > free advice. > > There's plenty of free advice, unpaid, available, everyday, from 1000's of > excellent people. Internet will struggle on without yours and your > self-serving hubris and inane FUD. > > Len > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training: Wash DC; Dallas; Atlanta > IMGate.MEIway.com: anti-spam gateway, effective on 1000's of sites, free > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
