David, I do not want to get in an argument, but your first response was that
Relay for Addresses was the "ONLY" safe setting. That is absolutely false
and misleading.

Relay for Addresses is "needed" at many scenarios, but should only be used
when NEEDED. Each scenario is different. Some software when sending e-mail
does not have the ability to authenticate and so forth.

It is a business decision to use Relay for Addresses, not a requirement.

Forcing users to authenticate with the no relay is the best safe setting
there is. If you have to use relay for addresses, then you have to.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] my server got blacklisted
> 
> 'No relay' is not practical.  I'm sure most IMail admins that use their
> servers for anything usefull use 'relay for addresses'.  If you don't
> include an address (or leave the list empty), then SMTP-AUTH is required.
> This indeed is the safe setting.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Gregg
> dgSoft Internet Services
> Web hosting, Email outsourcing, Dedicated and shared infrastructure
> solutions.
> (949) 584-1514
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] my server got blacklisted
> 
> 
> Wrong. The only absolute safe option is no relay. By selecting relay for
> addresses, you are allowing anyone from that IP address to freely send
> millions of messages to everyone.
> 
> Of course, many times you have to allow relay for address. In doing so,
> you
> must make sure of what goes on at that IP.
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] my server got blacklisted
> >
> > Always set imail to 'relay for addresses'.  It is the *only* safe
> option.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David Gregg
> > dgSoft Internet Services
> > Web hosting, Email outsourcing, Dedicated and shared infrastructure
> > solutions.
> > (949) 584-1514
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mohd Izham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [IMail Forum] my server got blacklisted
> >
> >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > this morning i've got several report from customers that my server got
> > > blacklisted. I''ve checked at dnsstuff.com and it is true !? I've set
> > "Relay
> > > for local users only". I've done testing it and it seems imail does
> not
> > > check the users properly.
> > >
> > > i have a domain 21stcentury.tc, the user "mine" is not a valid user.
> the
> > > primary domain is barbera3.skali.net and my user "izham" is a valid
> > user.
> > I
> > > telnet to the server (port 25) and the mail from is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > and
> > > the rcpt to is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it seems the mails go
> > through.
> > > it makes me wonder why...
> > >
> > > please help.
> > >
> > >
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