So basic Imail is not for heavy use and this is on a quiet day only around 15% load on 
a Sunday

Just trying out any possible reason :-)

The queue on the imail server haven't been over 12 mails today most of the time 2 or 3 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: 16. november 2003 19:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] after upgrade to 8.04


>Anyone here having a idea what can be wrong
>
>I have set the queuemanager to 15 pipes to listen on

hope springs eternal...

>but in my gateway i get a lot of this
>
>Nov 16 11:22:04 mailgw1 postfix/nqmgr[766]: C000A33E52: 
>to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=0, 
>status=deferred (connect to 213.236.237.140[213.236.237.140]: read 
>timeout)

this is postfix trying to send to Imail, but IMail is running so slow that 
postfix is timing out, and deferring delivery.   You can maybe reduce the 
deferrals by increasing postfix patience so postfix will wait longer before deferring 
(which is a 15 minute delay minimum, then 30,
then 60, if Imail stays screwed up):

# postconf | grep timeout

smtp_connect_timeout = 60s
smtp_data_done_timeout = 60s
smtp_data_init_timeout = 60s
smtp_data_xfer_timeout = 60s
smtp_helo_timeout = 60s
smtp_mail_timeout = 60s
smtp_quit_timeout = 60s
smtp_rcpt_timeout = 60s
smtp_rset_timeout = 120s

smtpd_timeout = 20s  <<< Imail sending to postfix

Total "normal" msg lifetime through IMGate should be under 5 secs to Imail, so you can 
see how BAD things are on Imail if you have
to increase the per-STMP command delays above to many 10's of seconds.

>it looks like its constant a queue on the gateway server with around 
>600 - 1000 mails

as long as that doesn't grow indefinitely, no problem.  even it goes up to  5000, but 
then creeps down, ok.  IMGate is doing it's
smoothing/buffering of the inflow rate.

But if postfix queue continues to grow indefinitely (Imail just can't keep up with 
Internet's inbound volumes), then you're screwed.

>The server is a 4 way Intel Xeon MP 1,4 with 4 gb ram

>but what i see here is that net network peak is only around 1%
>
>Could this be the bottleneck ?

Of course not, the poor network wires aren't even getting warm with tiny rate that 
Imail can exchange mail with postfix.  The total
delay is within Imail.

>I have 2 nic's in my server is it possible to set the same ip address 
>on both cards ? to see if it works better on the other ?

the problem is NOT any one NIC, but Imail's queue or whatever processing (assuming you 
don't run a "bad-with-Imail" NIC.)

You can watch postfix-to-Imail activity with:

tail -f /var/log/maillog | egrep -i "relay=A\.B\.C.*status="

... where A.B.C is the ClassC of Imail.

The other tweak to offload from Imail is to export Imail userbase to IMGate, so IMGate 
can reject unknown users without
hassling/querying IMail for the the 10's of 1000's of bad recipients you must receive 
with 60K accounts.  Using
reject_unverified_sender with 60K accounts and your volumes is not recommended.

Len


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