In reality the domain level is processed first then the user level rules. In Marc's example his mxGuard headers are sending all messages to the user's spam box. The user level rule is redirecting any messages with the level of 20 to the super_spam box. Without the user level rule everything would go to the spam box. It is just a second level of processing
The passage quoted could probably be written differently but it isn't exclusive of the way the rules work. IMail's rules are processed by domain then user. If there is a domain rule met IMail will follow the specs in the domain rule. As an example the domain rule states: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:NUL and the user rules says: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:MAIN The email will be deleted by the domain rule. A different scenario would be : Domain Rule: H~spam weight=10:spam User Rule: H~spam weight=20:super_spam All messages with "spam weight=10" will go to each individual's spam mailbox any messages that are destined to a user's spam box with the spam weight=20" and the above user rule will be redirected from the user's spam box to their super_spam box. In the same vein, say a user wants to whitelist something that the domain is redirecting. As long as it's a domain re-direction and not a deletion this can be done as follows: User Rule: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:main This will functionally re-direct any mail from user1 destined to any mailbox to the main box for the user(s) that employ this re-directing rule. This is just a brief discussion. There are many other scenarios that can be defined such as how to apply a rule to just one mailbox. One must also be careful as a rule loop could be possible. Hope this makes things a little clearer Eric S ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gregg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] How could you automate message deletion in a specified folder in each users mail box > The confusion is here: > http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/guide/imailug801/Chapter%204%20processing2.html > > Item 10 says: > Delivery rules for the mail host. IMail Server determines if the message > matches a rule for the mail host. If so, delivery follows according to that > rule. If not, then rules for the user ID are checked. > > This is what we disproved today. I'd say the documentation needs some > attention. > > Regards, > > David Gregg > dgSoft Internet Services > +1.949.584-1514 > > --- > mxGuard for IMail > Server based spam and virus protection for under $100 > Request a free trial at http://www.mxGuard.com > --- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc A. Funaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:40 AM > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] How could you automate message deletion in a > specified folder in each users mail box > > > Actually, to clarify the logic, I believe that the domain level processing > rules ARE applied first, but then "overridden" by any user-level rules that > are in place. Splitting hairs perhaps, but I *think* the "domain receives > the email first", applies rules for the destination user account, which are > then overridden if necessary by the user account's rules. > > iMail's method of processing rules, combined with mxGuard, has been an > excellent way for us to tell users "if you don't like how the domain-level > rules are processing your spam, or if you need to "whitelist" a specific > address or type of message, use your user-level rules, accessed through > webmail." God help us if iMail changes the order or functionality of rules > processing!! :) > > There are much more knowledgeable people here on this though, and I'll be > the first one to stand up and say that what I just said may not be > absolutely accurate... feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. > > Marc > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:40 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] How could you automate message > > deletion in a > > specified folder in each users mail box > > > > > > Marc, > > > > I stand corrected. Either my testing was flawed (probable) > > or one of the > > 8.x versions of IMail was flawed (though I doubt it). > > > > I have indeed verified that the user level rules.ima appears > > to be processed > > first, if no match is made, the domain level rules.ima file > > will then be > > used. > > > > This is the way one would want things to work anyway! Good catch :) > > > > Regards, > > > > David Gregg > > dgSoft Internet Services > > +1.949.584-1514 > > > > --- > > mxGuard for IMail > > Server based spam and virus protection for under $100 > > Request a free trial at http://www.mxGuard.com > > --- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Gregg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:16 AM > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] How could you automate message > > deletion in a > > specified folder in each users mail box > > > > > > > Maybe we should downgrade :) > > > > > > Version 8.x behaves as I've described. I'll test again > > just to make sure > > > and report back. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > David Gregg > > > dgSoft Internet Services > > > +1.949.584-1514 > > > > > > --- > > > mxGuard for IMail > > > Server based spam and virus protection for under $100 > > > Request a free trial at http://www.mxGuard.com > > > --- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Marc A. Funaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:00 AM > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] How could you automate message > > deletion in a > > > specified folder in each users mail box > > > > > > > > > >Be aware > > > > though, that > > > > domain level rules are checked prior to user level rules. If > > > > a match is > > > > made in the domain rules, that's it - no more rules will > > be processed, > > > > including the user level rules. This make it impossible > > for a user to > > > > exclude/override the domain rules. Use domain rules with caution. > > > > > > David, I'm not sure the above is true; for example, I am > > using user-level > > > rules with mxGuard that are definitely overriding the > > domain level rules I > > > set up for LEVEL10 and LEVEL20 mxGuard header inserts for > > spam... in my > > > case, i have a user level rule that puts LEVEL10's in a > > SPAM folder and > > > LEVEL20 or higher into a "superspam" folder... the domain > > level rule puts > > > level 10 or higher into the spam folder. This is with > > iMail 7.x though... > > > > > > Just curious! > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > List Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > List Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
