Yes, I regularly find myself on their lists, but their appear to be
different degrees of blacklisting going on at AOL - at the very least
there is a Tier 1 blacklist and a Tier 2 blacklist.  I've managed
through cajoling to get myself whitelisted I believe, however the caveat
to that is the fact that I HAVE to stay on their worst-than-useless
feedback loop.

Dealing with AOL techs are like dealing with the devil.  You never know
what bargain you'll end up striking, but whatever it is, you'll suffer
eternally for it.

Regards,
Jamie Price 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Delbridge
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] AOL Blacklisting: Mechanics?


Thank you for the info, Jamie.

Don't you end up regularly blacklisted by AOL?  We were blacklisted last

week for, as far as I can tell, no more than the aforementioned dozen or

so false alerts per day.  I have nothing else to go on.  Our logs show 
nothing abnormal and AOL won't tell me exactly WHY we were blacklisted.

Dave

Jamie Price wrote:

> I literally receive 1,000 messages from AOL per day from that feedback

> loop of theirs (I maintain 25,000+ domains).  I don't even go through 
> them - they're useless since it's user generated.  Some are spam, 
> others legit opt-in, others are forwarding as you mentioned.  It's not

> worth my time to go through them.
> 
> Regards,
> Jamie Price
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.HostMySite.com
> Get your FREE .com, .net, .org, .biz and .info domain name at
> HostMySite.com!
> Phone: International 302.731.4948 | Toll Free: 877-215-4678
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David 
> Delbridge
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] AOL Blacklisting: Mechanics?
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anybody have details re the mechanics of AOL's "spam" button and
> automatic blacklisting practices?
> 
> For example:
> 
>    - How many pushes of that button will blacklist an IP?
>    - What's the polling timeframe?  Per day?  Per week?
>    - What's the blacklisting duration?  Always 1 week?
>    - Other factors?
> 
> We have been trying to inform our users who forward mail to an AOL
> address that use of this button is serving to blacklist US; not 
> spammers.  But it's a losing battle.  So, I'm wondering how many of 
> these will get us blacklisted.  We may simply have to disable
forwarding
> 
> services.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Dave
> 
> ps.  <rant>We have recently begun receiving AOL's "feedback" for spam
> messages purportedly coming from our mail servers.  At roughly three 
> dozen in three days, NOT ONE report is legit.  In every instance,
either
> 
> the user is forwarding his/her mail (including spam) to their AOL
> address or the message was from an opt-in, non-profit discussion list,

> NOT an advertisement or even remotely resembling one.  Three dozen 
> "spam" alerts and not one originating from our server.  Very
impressive.
> 
>   A 100% failure rate.  Kudos, AOL.</rant>
> 

-- 

David M. Delbridge
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