Hi Everyone,

I think my message may have implied emphasis on something that, in retrospect, is only 
a part of the bigger picture... I do very much appreciate your points of view.  I 
guess I should clarify my situation a little better...

The move to Linux actually involves more than just a decision to save money; in 
reality, I think that saving money will simply be a fringe benefit IF in fact it is 
fully realized.  *I* think it will be fully realized, but I can just as easily be 
wrong.  To be totally open about the decision, I would also have to include the facts 
that (1) As a web applications development firm, we're moving a way from ColdFusion 
and towards Java/Java Server Pages/OO programming, (2) I have a personal interest in 
becoming an experienced Linux/*nix admin (adding diversity to my skillset, something 
that can't possibly hurt, can it?), and (3) my own experience with Windows since the 
3.0 days (NT and WFWG) has given me enough "trouble" to want to seek the 
much-acclaimed stability of the *nix platform in general, while I'm still young enough 
to care.  :)

I have a personal love of technology that REALLY delivers on its promise and I guess 
part of me is looking to find out, in a way, if the *nix people are just MS bashers, 
or if they "really have a point" when it comes to overall platform stability.  The 
last time I really, truly experienced technology "at its finest" was with an 
installation of Novell 4.1 at a law firm I once consulted for; at the moment they were 
pushed to go with a "wonderful" Microsoft solution, when I went to "down" the server 
for the last time for them, it had been up and running for around 475 days straight.  
When I asked about it, they said "yeah, it's kinda just sat there and ran... I think 
[someone] rebooted it a year or so ago, when we needed an OS patch or something..." 
(which leads me to believe that the uptime was probably even longer).  That, to me, is 
delivery on a promise.  Once they moved away from that platform, they got used to the 
"oh yeah, occassionally you have to reboot the server" thing.... as I think most of us 
have.  (I can't complain too much... our Win2k3 servers have actually been doing very 
well.)

So, i was really "wrong" in how I phrased my initial post, as it was too focused on 
cost savings.  There's really much more to it than that for me personally as well as 
professionally... I just don't want to continue to be an "MS drone", and never seek 
the answer to the question "Could this be better?"... if I at least explore this new 
avenue, I'll be adding to my skillset AND answering the question at the same time... 
while perhaps improving the services we offer our clients.  If it turns out that I 
cannot come up with a reasonable alternative to iMail, then it's a no-brainer to stay 
on Win2k3 and iMail, and move on to something else.  I know I should expect some bias, 
since I *did* post my question in the iMail newsgroup (and you'd all be totally right 
to flame me for that transgression!!), but I know that there's also people on this 
list that are in fact experienced *nix admins, and may have (strong?) opinions 
regarding the stability of the Windows/iMail solution compared to some other 
enterprise-level solutions they may have been involved with.  It's those people that 
I'm most interesting in hearing from... because they have what I seek -- experience 
from both sides of the "fence".

Again, I hope I'm not offending anyone... iMail has been very very good to us.  But I 
think it's kinda important to continue to ask questions and learn more about what's 
out there too.  My apologies for making it sound like simply a "money-based" decision 
when, as I said, after thinking about it there really is much more to it than that. :)

Thanks again everyone, and apologies again for this relatively off-topic post.

M

p.s. I didn't really grasp what the response below was trying to say... "My ISP" ?? 
Not sure what you mean...  please feel free to clarify.








> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matrosity Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Beating the Micro$oft Cost
> 
> 
> I agree 100% as NOTHING is really free in life. Your ISP may 
> be finding
> themselves looking for Linux gurus instead of keeping you as well.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Matt Robertson
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Beating the Micro$oft Cost
> 
> 
> Marc,
> 
> I would give serious consideration to buying a Win2k server license. 
> As was pointed out, you are headed for a learning curve that otherwise
> doesn't exist.  While it won't cost in hard dollars lost time 
> has to count
> for something.  imho a lot more than 800 bucks; especially 
> considering the
> customer service issues that are go with this if you are an ISP.
> 
> Just a thought that admittedly doesn't address your core question...
> 
> -- 
> --Matt Robertson--
> MSB Designs, Inc.
> mysecretbase.com
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