This cost is the reason we went the way the way we did.  We have one
domain that spans both an exchange server and Imail, BTW we have
multiple other domains running on both boxes it is just this one that
spans both.  

I have 95% of my users in that domain remote and they use Imail
mailboxes and popping mail off.  The other 5% of the users are local and
use our exchange server for the groupware features.  We did this because
of the low cost of having many users on Imail and the lack of benefit
from putting them on exchange. 

I don't disagree that putting all of the users on Exchange would be less
confusing and eliminate any jerry-rigging that has been done, and now
that ICS is here and they want as much money for it as for my Exchange
CALs, I may just get rid of Imail all together.


Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Mail Config Issue

Right.  Everyone that has an Exchange account so they can use the
groupware
features.  For small businesses you can cover a lot of users quickly
with
the MS Action Pack subscription.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Mail Config Issue


Then it would require and exchange CAL for everyone would it not?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Mail Config Issue

That works...only problem is depending on how the message is originated,
the
FROM address may look like [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It's ok
internally, but can lead to a few external people seeing it as
well...which
can be problematic.  That's why I suggested just let everyone POP the
Exchange instead of trying to jury-rig or find a workaround for
Exchange's
peculiarities.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Mail Config Issue


What we did was to use a non existent domain for the exchange server.
Say our external domain is domain.com the exchange domain was setup to
be popforward.domain.com.  The imail server has aliases setup for each
exchange user to forward to the exchange servers domain.  When an
exchange user sends mail to someone at domain.com it is sent via smtp to
the imail server.  We built a connector on the exchange server for
domain.com to allow this to happen.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Mail Config Issue

Best bet is to pass it all to Exchange and let all users POP it from
there.
Exchange 2000 was almost impossible to get it to forward email to an
outside
POP3 server for user addresses it knew about.  Exchange 2003 may be
better
about that, but having everyone POP the Exchange server is still the
best
bet.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Comerford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Mail Config Issue


This is slightly off-topic, but this is the best list I know for mail
issues.

We host a web site and mail for this client

They want to start using an internal Exchange Server and pass most of
the
mail via Exchange Pop3 connector.
They have a few external users who for some reason MUST continue using
pop3
This works fine on incoming mail.

If Exchange user however sends mail to an POP3 user on the same domain
the
problem begins.

I'm not an Exchange person, so these answers may be simple, but I was
unable
to find my answers...I have these questions:

Is there a way in exchange to tell it that certain users of that
domain are not internal and
they need to be sent back to our server?

Or if Exchange Server allows some users to connect via POP3 and get
their mail, I could route
all of their mail to Exchange and let those few users access it via
POP3 from Exchange?

Thanks for any direction here...
-Jim






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